Group Nexus ANPR PCN Claimform - Cannon Lane Retail Park, Tonbridge, TN9

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1 Date of the infringement 17/8/22

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 24/8/22
 

3 Date received 3/9/22
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Y
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Y
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] N
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up Give answer here
 

7 Who is the parking company? Group Nexus

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Cannon Lane Retail Park, Tonbridge, TN9
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. BPA
 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

 I received the initial PCN and then a reminder in Sept from Group Nexus.

Then started to get threatening letters from Debt recovery plus up until Dec 22.

Then nothing until DCBLegal started writing to me threatening court action.

I ignored all in anticipation for a letter before claim which I havnt received.

Instead I was delighted (NOT) to open a county court claim form from yesterday.

I immediately went online MCOL and proceeded to acknowledge the service to give me some extra time to get your opinions on this, before proceeding any further.

I will endeavour to send you the original PCN and the last correspondence received from DCBLegal before receiving the claim form.

If there is anything else needed please let me know.

Many thanks

 

Group Nexus 1st and last letter before claim issued (redacted) Compressed.pdf Claim form (redacted)-compressed.pdf

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Hi I already done the AOS today.

 

 

Which Court have you received the claim from ?

1. MCOL Northampton N1 ? Civil National Bus centre. Northampton
2. Manual Claim CCMCC (Salford) ?
3. New beta WWW.MONEYCLAIMS.SERVICE.GOV.UK ?

If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS)

Name of the Claimant :           

Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Ltd

Date of issue – 29.11.23

Date for AOS - Completed AOS 5/12/23

Date to submit Defence - Monday 1st January 2024? This would be a bank holiday, so do I have to do it before because of this?

[NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING YOUR TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN ANY COUNT [an example: Issue date 01.03.2020: + 19 days  = 19.03.2020 :+ 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2020: a total of 33 days]

What is the claim for – As can be seen in uploaded claim form redacted

**IMPORTANT** WE NEED TO SEE THE FULL POC MINUS YOUR PERS DETAILS>> NOT AN ABRIDGED VERSION**THIS MUST INCLUDE THE LOCATION

What is the value of the claim? not sure what this refers to

Amount Claimed 167.96

court fees 35

legal rep fees 50

Total Amount 252.96

Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? (y/N - if Y state Date too) N

Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? Y/N + date and did you reply? N

 

Claim form (redacted)-compressed.pdf

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Was shocked when I opened the letter to see it was a claim form, no notice received of this apart from the last letter I received which I already uploaded in the 1st instance. Its so depresssing

Thanks

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Thank you for all your comments so far.

I thought the same about point 4 in POC re keeper liability etc.

There seems to be a bit of confusion with their dates also, because the alleged contravention occured on 17/8/22 but they dont refer to that date at all on the claim form POC only the date of issue. Also on most of the previous threatening letters I received it states that the date of contravention being the 24/8/22 when in fact it was 17/8/22, does this help our situation as this seems a mistake on their behalf (debt recovery plus and dcbl bailiffs) what do yous think?

Lastly Im just doing the CR31.14 request. Do I  just use the 3 points on the CR31.14 template? or do I need to add anything to that because of point 4 on the POC? sorry bit confused by this and would appreciate some guidance

 

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So do I still have a good defence then?

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Thanks @Nicky Boy

I have just been successful in them discontinuing another parking case against my husband.

I am determined to do my bit with your help and fight these tickets.

I just wished everyone else done the same because as your forum says, if everyone refused to pay they would be out of business.

As if times arent hard enough without these people trying to get money from you grrrr...

Ive created the CPR 31.14 ready to send,

can I just ask if I need to send to just the solicitors or the claimant as well?

Ill get proof of postage

Thanks

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Hi guys,

I am in panic mode.

Can someone please confirm to me the date in which this defence has to be submitted by?

I worked out it was by the 1st jan 2024 but really need someone to help me confirm this.

Im not in a good place atm, I'll be honest, I am struggling with everything atm, my mental health is not very good, so would really really appreciate some help in getting this done in time.

I am finding it really confusing to get started on the defence I need for this particular claim, as it has been mentioned that the defence needs to be tweaked because they are going after keeper as well in POC....

I have all day today and tomorrow to get this done but really need some guidance and confirmation from the experts on here. Thank you much appreciated.

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Thanks for speedy reply @dx100uk but can you clarify where to find post 3? is the post 3 you are referring to my previous case?

thanks

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Cheers, got it.  Im just about to submit this via mcol website.

Thank you kindly

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Submitted. Will keep you all posted. Much appreciation for your help as always.

 

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@lookinforinfo thanks for that.

That makes sense but what does this mean for me?

Does it mean they will have better chance of success from judge against just the keeper? or will it still boil down to the arguments put forward re the extra amounts added, the signage and any other point I may use in my defence?

thanks

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No, sorry I didnt know that, lol.....I saw others doing it in other threads so thought it was needed, as ive said im not good with tech so still learning. 

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Thank you LFI that makes sense.

Just an update. I have received the allocation of small track claim. I have completed the N180 and am about to post. 1 copy to business centre - micky mouse court and 1 copy to claimants sols.

I have received a reply re my SARS request from DCB legal pluis a reply to CPR 31.14 request. They have just sent copies of the threatening letters they have previously sent me a and a copy of lots of pictures of the car parking signs in situ within the said car park.

will keep you uodated

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No Nothing new, no contracts or planning permissions etc. just lots of pictures of the signs and copies of the demands they have sent previously.

I havent given any contact details apart from address

many thanks

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Thank you, Im just trying to get them all uploaded

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 SAR request, 

I have also received the Notification of allocation to the small claims track hearing for beginning nov 2024

 

 

2024-01-15 DBCLegal SAR.pdf

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Hi Sorry for uploading them wrong. Im not technical at all and self taught so bear with me as im trying my best.

Thank you for all the info regarding the signs, this was my thoughts as well. Yes they have changed teh signs since this happened Ill ahve to have a look back through and see if when I took the pictures they were already the new ones or I have the old ones. I cant remember off hand.

With regards to Europarks running the site now, Just to make you aware there is another small retail park just across the road and Im sure they are Europarks. The shops within that park are just Aldi and B & M. The site that we received the NTK has a few more shops, Home bargains, The food Warehouse, M & S food and a few others. I put these for identififcation purposes just in case it is the other site that you were looking at.

The main entrance sign is on the bend on the left as you drive in the entrance so when you drive in from the right and turn in you can see it in front of you but if you drive in from the other way as we do then you dont see it unless you know its there and as you say you would have to stop to read it al anywayl. The main thing that always jumped out at us was FREE PARKING FOR CUSTOMERS ONLY in large letters.

Please find the notice of hearing date attached and an offer letter I received from the vultures DCBLegal this morning, 

 

 

 

N157 Hearing Date 6th Nov.pdf

2024-05-28 DCB Legal Settlement Begging Letter.pdf

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Thank you

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Hi 

I would have only applied for a SARS if advised to do so on here, but Id have to look back through everything and all th eposts to see when and why etc.

But No thinking back Im sure we did not receive a Letter of claim. But will they not claim it was sent and lost in post? Can we request a copy of this?

Thanks