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DEBT CENTRE TRAFFORD - DWP - "TAX CREDIT OVERPAYMENT" when self employed


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P45 here here and there is no tax reference on there. There is a 5 character reference. 
 

W1111.  Not the actual code. The 1’s represent the numbers. That it?

 

The other email address. Can I send private. Not to add on here?

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yes send a PM to me lets finally get them merged please.

tax sar...leave the numbers blank then

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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forget the username issue thats sorted. usernames now merged here you are mrk1

as for the hmrc sar , if you dont know a number leave it blank

they'll soon scream

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you dont know those 2 number so leave those parts blank.

if they need them they will ask you for them.

i doubt it.

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I will add this in the description box...

 

To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to formally request all personal data HMRC holds about me under the Data Protection Act 2018.

Specifically, I am seeking clarification regarding an alleged overpayment of £546.42 in tax credits that I have been informed I owe, associated with the award period ending 29 September 2014. I recently received a letter dated 12 November 2023 from Debt Management Trafford stating I owe this amount.

Upon calling both HMRC and the debt management agency, I was informed this alleged overpayment is connected to reported earnings of £6000 for the tax year covering the period in question. I firmly contend that I did not earn anywhere near that amount, and had I done so, it would have been properly declared.

Therefore, I am convinced there has been an error made in your external audit department that requires urgent review and correction. The stress of dealing with mistaken debts is difficult enough without adding unnecessary anxiety.

To investigate this and appeal the assessed overpayment, I formally request a full copy of all personal data HMRC retains about me, including but not limited to:

  • Tax returns, reported income, and associated documents and correspondence from [YEAR RANGE]
  • Documents and letters regarding this alleged overpayment
  • Transcripts of phone calls to HMRC related to this tax credits issue
  • Notes from meetings or case files about my account

Please provide this information covering from [START YEAR] to present day. This subject access request relates specifically to the £546.42 overpayment from September 2014 but any data retained over payments within this date range may also be relevant.

My current address is [YOUR ADDRESS]. My previous address going back to [YEAR] was [OLD ADDRESS]. Please send all information to my current address either digitally or in physical form, whichever is most convenient.

According to data protection law, you must respond to SARs within 30 calendar days. I look forward to receiving this data within the legal time frame so I can appeal this inaccurate overpayment claim and resolve the mistake in your records. Please send confirmation of this request for my own records.

Regards, [YOUR NAME]

 

Thanks Claud.ai

 

Posted,. let's see what they say eh.

 

 

Thank you

Your information has been forwarded on to HM Revenue & Customs.

Click 'Next' to return to GOV.UK.

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whats the time limit on an sar for a reply? 

did you even read it before sending?

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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an sar is 30 days.

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Letter back from HMRC. 

I have a short schedule list of calls from tax credit help line. That’s it. Around 10 logs of calls. Just times and dates. 
 

What should I do now?
 

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wait until the 30 days has expired?

might just be from one dept.

thats a really silly silly letter you sent with that sar.

give the game away of why you sent the sar...

 

you had no need to send that...:frusty:

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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they have 30 days to comply........

but you've really really shot yourself in the foot by nailing down 'exactly' why you want the sar and what info you want.

we never said do that..

sadly it's an ongoing trait with you, you never actually 'just' do what is advised or not do things at all, you always have to in some way do your own things which 9/10 screws things up for you.

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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On 13/12/2023 at 01:06, dx100uk said:

they have 30 days to comply........

:whistle:

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi. I got another letter from HMRC. Bigger. 
seems to be everything from 2010 to 2022. I only asked for 2013 to 2015. 
what’s the next step? 

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check the debt is real and they have the data to prove you owe what they claim.

an sar is for EVERYTHING someone holds on you by the act.

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Not sure how. 
End of the day I asked for help.

They give it to me.

They then said that I declared too much later on.

And if I did then there has been an error somewhere. 

Might need to seek advice in Cit Advice? 

Are they likely to do debt recovery? Or shall I just ignore their letters with red ink? 

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they can even arrest wages and benefits 

have you not been reading up?

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So they can do debt recovery? I was told on here they never take that action? 


Im not on benefits and only work part time currently. 


What’s likely to happen here?

If I call them they’ll just tell me to shut up and pay. 


Should I seek advise from Cit Advice??

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might be better yes as you never do what you are advised to do here anyway.

let them have a bucketful of grief from you.

HMRC have bailiffs of their own and can enforce debts without going to court.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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What do you think I Should do here now. 

I’ve no idea looking all these 200 pages where to start. It’s a bit of a mess. 
 

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you need to find the data that proves you owe or not the debt they claim you do

this will be by payments of working tax credit at a level you were not then entitled too.

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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