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    • I disagree with the charge and also the statements sent. Firstly I have not received any correspondence from DVLA especially a statutory notice dated 2/5/2024 or a notice 16/5/2024 voiding my licence if I had I would have responded within this timeframe. The only letter received was the single justice procedure notice dated the 29.5.2024 this was received on 4.6.2024. I also disagree with the statement that tax was dishonoured through invalid indemnity claim. I disagree that the licence be voided I purchased the vehicle in Jan 2024 from RDA car sales Pontefract with agreement to collect the car on the 28.1.2024. The garage taxed the vehicle on the 25.1.24 for eleven payments on direct debit  using my debit card on my behalf. £62.18 was the initial payment on 8.2.24  and £31 per month thereafter the second payment was 1.3.24.This would run from Jan 24 to Dec 24 and a total of £372.75, therefore the car was clearly taxed before  I took the car away After checking one of my vehicle apps  I could see the vehicle was showing as untaxed it later transpired that DVLA had cancelled my tax , without reason and I did not receive any correspondence from DVLA to state why it was cancelled or when. The original payment of £62.18 had gone through and verified by my bank Lloyds so this payment was not declined. I then set up the direct debit again straight away at my local post office branch on 15.2.2024 the first payment was £31 on 1.3.2024 and subsequent payments up to Feb 2025 with a total of £372.75 which was the same total as the original DD that was set up in Jan, Therefore I claimed the £62.18 back from my bank as an indemnity claim as this payment was from the original cancelled tax from DVLA and had been cancelled . I have checked my bank account at Lloyds and every payment since Jan 24  up to date has been taken with none rejected as follows: 8.2.24 - £62.15 1.3.24 - £31.09 2.4.24 - £31.06 1.5.24 - £31.06 3.6.23-£31.06 I have paper copies of the original DD set up conformation plus a breakdown of payments per month , and a paper copy of the second DD setup with breakdown of payments plus a receipt from the post office.I can also provide bank statements showing each payment to DVLA I also ask that my licence be reinstated due to the above  
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    • I've completed a draft copy to defend and will post up here for review.  Looking over the dates and payments this all stemmed from DVLA cancelling in Feb , whereby I set up a new DD in Feb hence the overlap, why they cancelled when I paid originally in Jan I have no idea. Anyway now stuck with pending court action and a suspended licence . I am also firing off a letter to DVLa recorded disputing the licence revoke
    • Thank you both for your expert knowledge and understanding. You're fighting the good fight by standing up for people like me and others with limited knowledge of this stuff. I thank you. I know all my DVLA details are good. I recently (last year) renewed my license, and my car's V5 is current with the correct details; the same is valid for my partner. I'll continue to ignore the love letters 😂 and won't let it bother either me or my partner.  I'll revisit this post if/when I get a letter of claim.  F**k ém.
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Have a look what we have to say about good will gesture.

This is a nasty little company that goes out of its way to frustrate ordinary people who generally speaking don't have any legal help so that the company normally gets their own way.

They have no problem about wasting taxpayers money. About helping to increase the court backlog of cases so that people with legitimate claims are inconvenienced and of course taxpayers pay – and of course the parcel delivery companies simply parasite themselves on the back of it and when eventually they pay out, I am pretty certain that they set the payment against tax so that the taxpayer pays the burden as well.

This was entirely expected and I think I predicted it earlier on in the thread. They are trying to welch out on the interest element is a sort of face-saving gesture to themselves – and that is how much value they set upon their own pride.

EVRi are following the thread – so bravo EVRi. Don't forget that you are taxpayers as well so you are actually having also to shoulder the burden of money which eventually finds its way into shareholders and senior execs. At the lowest level I imagine very little finds its way into the pockets of the drones.

No problem about posting the documents here. Go ahead – in PDF format. I expect it will be just like all the others that have been posted here previously

 

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Check the figure they have offered you carefully. The absolutely certain that it doesn't include the interest element. If it does really meet the entire value of your claim including interest and costs then you have to accept. Even if they do try to say that it is without liability et cetera – the usual nonsense.

If you turn down an offer which is equal to the value of your claim – that if it goes to court you are at risk of having to pay the costs of the other side even though you lose because a judge will consider that it was unnecessary to bring the matter to trial.

So do your calculations.

 

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it is a real shame the law does not protect us from these companies with regards to our time, never mind interest. Being in the military I left the house at 0500 this morning and walked back in just after 1930hrs. I am then having to deal with this, taking me away from my family, during this fight my father in law spent 6 weeks in a coma, my wife beside his bed, over 400 miles from me. This company have dragged their heels, knowing full well they are in the wrong, causing untold amount of stress. That is not to mention the stress at Christmas when we had to purchase an additional PS5. Yet, like you said, they can drag it out and offer a good will gesture.

If the law compensated us for our time, then they may think twice about fighting these claims, well, trying to defend these claims.

If it was not for you and the other admins, they would 100% get away with a lot more

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Post up their witness statement lets go.

PDF attachment as from the email.

Also post up a copy of the text of their email

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Up to you really.

 

I'd redact your address and full name but case numbers make no real differnece because nobody can do anything unless they have claim number, email, address, and name

 

BUT

 

please post up the contents of EVRis email ASAP, im curious to see what they're saying

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Dear .......

 

Claim No.: 

Parties: .... v EVRi Parcelnet Limited (Evri)

 

We write in relation to the above referenced matter.

 

We would like to take this opportunity to apologise for the issues that you have experienced while using our services. In this instance, Evri recognises that the services provided to you have not been in line with the usual high standards that are expected.

 

Notwithstanding the above, we write with a view to settle the matter and as a gesture of goodwill with no admission of liability, on this occasion, Evri are willing to offer you £490.75 (the full amount claimed plus the court fee) in full and final settlement of your claim. 

 

If you would like to accept this offer, please provide us with your bank account details, including the name on the account, at your earliest convenience and we will arrange for the payment to be made. Once bank details have been provided, please allow 14 days for payment to be received into your account.

 

We look forward to hearing from you.

 

Evri Legal Department

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Yes you may as well act in a spirit of cooperation by telling them that it's not deal unless they pay the very last penny – but other than that you won't budge.

You can also tell them that if they really want to make a gesture of goodwill that they could at least pay that amount of money and then you will fight out the interesting court. Tell them that you are prepared to go all the way but as they are monitoring this forum and your thread, they know that already anyway.

Tell them also that they better remember your name because if they do this to you again you will be coming for them again

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Please see attached  defendant witness statement 

Interest is currently £7.40 owed 

I do like the fact they are sticking to their defence that my wife is not the customer and then on page 19, name her as the customer 

Defendant WS - -1-1.pdf

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Have you responded to them in writing about the outstanding interest?

You need to make response in writing and explain why you are accepting the offer and telling them what they need to do in order to bring the litigation to an end – meaning, the interest payment.

Please post a draft here

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I've got a feeling that maybe the OP went back and got paid but is now bound by confidentiality like mediation maybe?

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Mick,

I've redacted your last upload further. You left full names, titles, email addresses and physical addresses showing.

If you've been bound by a confidentiality agreement, you can message Bankfodder to let him know...

It will stay confidential, allow us to draw a line and possibly lock the thread.

We could do with some help from you.

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Hi all,

 

Sorry for the delay. I have replied back to their email stating along the lines of:

I am extremely grateful for your apology and recognition that the service has not been to the expected standard.  

I am sure you will also agree that my family should not be out of pocket due to the lapses in your service, and therefore, I would like to offer you the opportunity to accept my counteroffer.

I then went on to list the Interest £7.40 and provided evidence of the postage costs of the letters, court bundles etc. The total cost of interest plus letters was £20. I then made a counteroffer to settle at £510.75 

 

I hope that is right.

 

I have not signed a a non disclosure form.

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Evening all,

 

So today, I was sent an updated offer that includes the £12.60 I spent on letters, but they have declined to add the interest at £7.40. They have stating

'We acknowledge your request to claim interest to date, however, this would be at the discretion of a trial judge if the claim did proceed to a trial hearing.'

I think I am content with this outcome, and pushing this to a trial for a total interest of £15.30 throughout the claim does not make sense to me.

 

What are people's thoughts? I am sure our courts have better things to concentrate on?

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Yep, true to form, they are happy to just save a couple of quid... They invariably lose in court, so to them, that's a win. 😅

We could do with some help from you.

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I would stand your ground and go for the interest.

Even if the interest is not awarded you will get the judgement and the worst that might happen is that you won't get your claim fee

However, it is almost inevitable that you will get the interest. 

It is correct that it is at the discretion of the judge but the discretion is almost always exercised in favour of the claimant in these cases. 

I think you should stand your ground and don't give even the slightest penny away

Another judgement against them on this issue would be very bad for them and they would be really stupid to risk it but if they did, it would cost them far more than the interest they are trying to save which they will most likely have to pay anyway

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I would say You should accept it - I HIGHLY doubt you will  be able to claim for letters at trial ans they’re offering you that, which is higher monetary value than interest.

 

Also they raise a good point, getting interest at anything above 4% is lucky these days, yes judges give it, but rarily above 4%

 

Also you might find depending on the judge  you don’t get some costs if you take it all the way over £7.40 when court woukdnt award letters costs and thus meaning their award would be less than evris offer which was made 

 

Up to you though but the wait will be 3-4mo for a trial date at least

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Thank you all

 

JK, I agree; if they were to accept my full claim today, then the interest would be around 8-9 pounds. If I were them, I would have offered to pay the interest and said no to the 12 pounds for the letters. These have not been mentioned, which is my mistake.  

As you pointed out, if the judge were to award at 4% and I did not get the letters, I would get less.

 

Bank, thank you. I do hear what you are saying. If I am to continue with this, then I will need to pay an additional trial fee of £59. If I win everything, then great, but if I win less the claim and court fee, then I lose out. I am not sure what the judge will think about the interest. I think we have to remember that I won the item and, therefore, did not pay a penny for it. Yes, I have had to purchase an additional one, but maybe the judge will hold this against me.

I am content that this is a win. I have not signed any non-disclosure clauses, and they do not ask for this either in their offer. 

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Evening all,

 

I have deliberated over this offer for two weeks and I have decided to take their offer. I do understand that some may prefer us to go to court and receive a judgement but with our personal circumstances and my current military commitment that could become an issue.

I am so grateful for all the help and support you have all offered me over the last few months. I will continue to monitor this site and push all those that are being wrong to get in touch.

 

Thank you! what you all do is truly amazing!

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Thanks for updating us. Your decision is very understandable. Don't worry.

You have done very well standing your ground against these people in a way you have and you have got everything you wanted bar just a very few quid.

Congratulations

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Did they pay out to you in the end?

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