G24 ANPR PCN - exceeded free parking by 11imns - Appealed - Robin Retail Park, Loire Drive, Wigan, Lancashire WN5 0UH

[blueboy2419]

I wish I had found this site earlier, I may have already given up more than I should.

I went to Robin Retail Park on 5th April 2023. It was half term and mad busy. G24 sent me a PCN on 19th April with entry time 13:46:11 and exit time 16:57:43

They say I exceeded the Free Parking Period of 180 minutes by 11 minutes, obviously taking the time between entry and exit.

I have responded to the PCN and completed the first stage appeal on the basis that I did not exceed the 'Free Parking Period' because it took me 9 minutes to find a space and it took 5 minutes to exit the car park.

The signage says 180 mins free parking, not 180 minutes maximum stay, and I believe my parking period started when I parked in a bay and ended when I left the bay, which I calculate to be 177 minutes.

I contacted the leaseholder of the retail park and they said they would challenge the PCN. I haven't heard anything back from G24 yet.

Any advice on what might happen next?

Grateful

 

[blueboy2419]

Thanks for the assistance, I hope this is right. Firstly, answers to the questionnaire (also included in the attached PDF)

 

1 Date of the infringement 5^th April 2023

 

 2 Date on the NTK  19^th April 2023

 

3 Date received  24^th April 2023

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012?  N 

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?  Images on NTK showing entry and exit

 

6 Have you appealed?  Y 

 

Have you had a response? N  

 

 7 Who is the parking company? G24 Limited 

 

8. Where exactly Robin Retail Park, Loire Drive, Wigan, Lancashire WN5 0UH

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.  IAS

 

 

Wigan G24 PCN 20230405.pdf

[blueboy2419]

Cheers. To be honest I think my brain filled in the Penalty bit I should have realised it said Parking Charge Notice.

 

I'll sit tight until further correspondence arrives.

[blueboy2419]

OK, the inevitable rejection arrived.

 

I've added it to the pdf and attached a new version here. Do I ignore this?

 

Cheers

Wigan G24 PCN 20230405 v2.pdf

[blueboy2419]

Thanks for the advice and backup. I'll turn a deaf ear.

 

[blueboy2419]

@FTMDave - Nothing from the Retail Park leaseholder yet, other than confirmation that they raised the matter with G24.

[blueboy2419]

@LookingForInfo Thank you for confirming my view.

 

I guess they are hoping I will cave in and pay. Their attitude has made me even more determined to challenge this to the bitter end. Bring it on.

[blueboy2419]

Well, didn't get the avalanche of correspondence I was expecting.......

Nothing at all until today, a letter from a debt recovery firm (more likely G24 in disguise!) with the usual 'pay now or else' blurb.

I've attached the letter to the end of the case but I plan to ignore it unless someone says otherwise.

Wigan G24 PCN 20230405 v3.pdf

 

[blueboy2419]

Leaseholder was a complete and utter waste of time.

 

[blueboy2419]

Been very quiet in the last months but they haven't gone away.

I'm ignoring this but for completeness I've attached the latest communication, threatening the next step will be Letter of Claim. If that is the plan,  I wish they would just get on with it!

 

 

G24 ANPR PCN - Appealed - Robin Retail Park, Loire Drive, Wigan, Lancashire WN5 0UH.pdf

[blueboy2419]

The Letter of Claim has now arrived.

I've added it to the main document and await advice before responding.

Thanks for any input.

 

G24 ANPR PCN - Appealed - Robin Retail Park, Loire Drive, Wigan, Lancashire WN5 0UH.pdf

[blueboy2419]

Ok, but surely I need to respond to the Letter of Claim?

 

I was planning to keep it simple with a statement that I did not contravene the regulation set out on the notices within the car park?

[blueboy2419]

I must be doing something wrong.....

I've tried a search as suggested and it does return a number of threads, however I can't find and example letter within any of them. Maybe I'm searching in the wrong place?