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On 23/04/2024 at 08:24, tobyjugg2 said:

So why are they not respecting the quite clear current voter desires and just s*d off?

Because running a country via soundbite politics is a far better use of everyone's time, naturally.

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The word is spreading across the world - that UK right wing politics and policy are prime examples of how NOT to do it

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its not about the migrants ..

Barrister Helena Kennedy warns that the Conservatives will use their victory over Rwanda to dismantle the law that protects our human rights here in the UK.

 

Angela Rayner made fun of Rishi Sunak’s height in a fiery exchange at Prime Minister’s Questions, which prompted Joe Murphy to ask: just how low will Labour go?

.. well .. not as low as sunak  :lol:

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Shocking costs created by Tory led Government in 2012.

Taxpayers brace for £100bn money-printing bill – as George Osborne says it’s ‘not my responsibility’

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Apparently some journalists have heard that Sunak may call an election next weekend or in the week following the bank holiday Monday. With the election to be held at the end of June.

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wouldn't be at all surprised - only chance he has to avoid an imminent brutus moment

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6 hours ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

Shocking costs created by Tory led Government in 2012.

Taxpayers brace for £100bn money-printing bill – as George Osborne says it’s ‘not my responsibility’

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isnt this about the quantative easing which I'm sure was referred in a much more informative way earlier in the thread?

Where  post Cameron Tory policies turned a massive surplus from the plan into a gigantic hole?

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Sunack trying every option to get somebody/anybody on a flight to Rwanda ...

 

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wonder if sunak will revoke/deny their passports when they get there?

Then announce that deportations to Rwanda have started ..

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LOL

 

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'This law is unworkable, not just inhumane'. Insiders say there is 'a lot of discontent' in the Department over the scheme 

 

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thought for the day

"Prime ministers need a big strategy that tells you where you’re going, you need a bunch of tactics that get you there, and you need the ability to take everybody else with you."

 

Now I know you are all thinking 'why is the  UKs destination Rwanda ???

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legal?

They have declared rwanda safe, in perpetuity, so if rwanda  security staff started murdering everyone in sight and its military shot commercial planes out of the sky and gassed whole townships - it would still be safe according to the tories and their bill

The whole thing is in breach of International law - and British law apart from the Tories unlawful rwanda bii - which will be  gone as soon as labour win the GE

Seems most likely to me that no-one will every be sent - apart from  civil servants - as Rwanda still has to agree to breaking international law - and they have repeatedly said they wont.

This is all about sunak staying enough of a front man to the rabid right to avoid no confidence votes, and to hell with the UKs international standing - he'll be off back to California like his wife wants anyway

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Asylum Europe 

Apparently refugees can be detained according to Asylum Europe website link above

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Of course they can, but then the wing nuts will be moaning about the cost of 'putting them up' for free - and then they would have to process them ...

 

" This power may only be exercised if there is a policy reason to detain this person, and if they have not already been detained for an unreasonable length of time. "

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(not) surprising what rabid racists and their politicians do to hide their hate filled rhetoric eh?

Same people who (with quite small justification) railed and railed against that labour Councillors (in private) conspiracy  concepts support the Tory london mayor racist hate monger candidate

 

Rather like hate monger bigots who support blatant antisemites, while shouting 'antisemitic' at anyone expressing horror at children being murdered by Israels IDF and 'settlers' - enough to make one think its the mass murder they support rather than any real Jewish issue sympathies or support eh?

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Attention will now shift to the 25 courtrooms and 150 judges Rishi Sunak announced yesterday to deal with appeals.

 

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If they can have a police minister and a mayoral candidate in right wing facebook groups promoting violence   ...

probably just selected some posters from those groups .. and called them judges ..

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No need to worry about Rwanda
Just give all the illegals one way trip to Northern Ireland then they can wander off into the EU through your beloved open border.  
 

Job Done 😂🤣
 

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so when is England going to protect its borders?

It was the No1 rabble rousing claim lie of the Brexitish wasn't it?

Closely along with:

* All the benefits, non of the risks

* No one challenging our place in the single market

* Cheaper fruit and veg

* Protect our fishing grounds

 

but all we really ended up with was:

* Record immigration

* All the risks none of the benefits

* No place in the single market and our businesses going bust

* 30% food price increase

* OUR fishermen going out of business - or taking their catch to Europe to sell

 

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Heres a point, while we wait for @theoldrouge to condemn rather than promote and support right wing bigots spouting genuine and clear monstrous antisemitic rhetoric ...

Isn't it actually specifically unlawful to promote violence against politicians on top of laws to criminalise such things?

... As is reported happening in these closed facebook groups run by Tory staff and where a Tory police minister and the Tory London mayor candidate are members and post?

 

.. or do the Tories (seemingly like tor) only promote laws for protecting the hate spouting hard right ?

 

"“Some of these (Tory facebook groups) posts constitute the most appalling racism and I would urge the Conservative Party to swiftly distance itself from these hate-filled groups and urgently investigate what role any Conservative politicians and officials have played within them.

“Susan Hall and the Tory MPs who have belonged to these groups need to come out and explain why – and to denounce the content they have tacitly endorsed by their membership.”

"Reporters found widespread racism and Islamophobia as well as conspiracy theories and celebrations of criminal damage on the pages, including sharing the white supremacist slogan and antisemitic videos. "

"Unearthed found that 46 out of the 82 admins have clear links to the Tory Party, including a recent digital campaign manager for the party and a conservative activist. Conservative councillor for Haywards Heath, Rachel Cromie, is an admin on all the groups. "

 

 

Also interesting that Facebook groups opposing 20mph speed limit in Wales are being run by English Tories

 

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TORY staff and activists are running Facebook pages which are riddled with white supremacist slogans and Islamophobic attacks...

Conservative-run anti-ULEZ Facebook groups are rife with racist and violent posts

 

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A coordinated network of 36 Facebook groups opposing London’s ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ), run by Conservative councillors and...

 

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