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The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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I received a envelope through my post yesterday evening, from Newlyn PLC, stating that I need to pay £513 immediately or the bailiff would be back to remove my belongings.

 

I received x3 PCNs in quick succession early in 2021, from Croydon Council for the same street (during the height of Covid19). 

 

The PCNs arrived at least 1 month after the alleged contravention.

I paid the 1st PCN, thinking that i had committed the contravention .

 

When i received the next 2 PCNs for the same street, I appealed them to the London Tribunals & won.

 

I never received any correspondence, PCN or anything else, in relation to the stated PCN, else I would have appealed it along with the other 2 PCNs.

 

How do a go about trying to quash this fee & stop the bailiff from attending my home?

 

Thanks 

 

 

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well they cant just roll up and barge in so dont worry too much, 

 

can you pop what you have received to one mass PDF only

 

read our upload guide carefully.

 

they cant just rock-up and do that without previously sending a notice of enforcement.

 

have you moved since the incidents?

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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ok.

well you could try appealing using the forms you used before i will guess these:

you dealt with the others so why not this one?

they at the time should have equally been aware there was another PCN outstanding and dealt with that too or atleast told you.

 

not really sure but worth a try.

 

im sure a brief likewise note to the bailiff will halt things for now, once he know forms have gone in/history.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks dx 100uk,

 

Just so I’m clear,

 

1. I should first send email to bailiff saying x2 previous PCNs for same street went to tribunal & I won , this one I never received any correspondence so could not defend it else I would have & will now be defending it?

 

2. email the council tell them similar thing , send them tribunal decision of other two?

 

I need to get confirmation alleged contravention fir this PCN . How should I do that in terms of getting the council to release those details to me?

 

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Why not ring the contravention unit (sic) of the council first.

Find out why this has happened, but I've a funny feeling it will result in you using the appropriate forms in that link.

 

They might deal with the bailiffs for you, as there appears to be some comms breakdown .

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Bear in mind the Bailiff has not taken Control of anything as yet, but a favourite is a motor vehicle, so try to keep yours off road if you can or away from outside your premises for now, whilst following whart DX has already advised.

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Thanks  

 

I don't recall completing the TE7 for the appeal on the x2 PCNs, which I actually did receive. In that instance I was appealing to the London Tribunals, the council's rejection of my appeal to the council .

 

I've attached 2 sections of the TE7 . With this bailiff situation, do I select the 'outside of the given time' or 'for more time' option, on the TE7

 

Is my reason for making the TE7 application , what I should be saying or am I missing anything?  Thanks 

 

 

I've spoken to the council & they have advised me to send them an email & copy Newlyn 

 

I can't find Newlyn's email address on the letter 

 

I have attached my draft letter to the council. Should I make any changes?

 

Thanks

 

Have converted docx to pdf for you and removed the docx.BN

 

TE7+letter to Council.pdf

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I would be very surprised indeed if Croydon Council would agree to cancel this penalty. Instead, if you had not received any of the statutory notices, they would advise you to complete EITHER an Out of Time Witness Statement, or alternatively, an Out of Time Statutory Declaration. Without knowing what the contravention relates to, you cannot file any application. 

 

In submitting either application, you would be required to provided a REASON as to why you would not have received the Penalty Charge Notice. Has there been a change of address etc? 

 

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On 23/01/2022 at 11:53, 00765 said:

No I’ve not moved but mail delivery was very bad between late 2020 to mid 2021. I was told that it was all related to COVID-19 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi here, what is happening with this case, any update?

 

I'm currently helping a friend of mine who is exactly in the same boat and is going out of her mind with worry.

 

Croydon Council really are the pits, since they're bankrupt, they're looking for any way to get money in their coffers, even though so many of their signage is unlawful and they are losing challenges by the bucketful, but that doesn't stop them using the likes of Newlyn's or Bristow & Sutter to intimidate vulnerable people!

 

Any update would be great, if you have any, that is! :) 

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Hi Bootworm & apologies for delay. Council have refused to rescind the PCN or stop the bailiffs, so I've been advised to submit a TEC. I've never submitted a TEC, so will ask here if anyone knows how to submit a TEC.

 

Wishing you the best in your battle with Croydon Council.

 

I'll update here as my war with the council progresses

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already post the link.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no you wanted the link ...i posted it at post 6 above back in jan

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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In my post number 11, I did mention that I would be very surprised if Croydon Council cancelled these PCN's and instead, they would advise you to submit Out of Time applications. I also mentioned that without knowing what type of offence the PCN's had been issued for, I could not advise you whether you would need to file an Out of Time Witness Statements (forms TE7 and TE9), or alternatively, Out of Time Statutory Declarations; (forms PE2 and PE3). 

 

Now for the difficulty......

In the vast majority of Out of Time applications, the REASON for filing the applications is because the motorist only became aware of a PCN when receiving a letter from bailiffs or even a personal visit. Worse still, when the motorist finds that his vehicle has been immobilised.

 

Enquiries will usually find that the REASON why the motorist had not received any previous notices....was because all correspondence had been sent to the address where his vehicle has been REGISTERED to on the contravention date. This would usually be a PREVIOUS address. The mistake that the motorist had made would be that when moving, he had failed to update his V5C (Log Book) with DVLA. Motorists have to update BOTH their Log Book AND Driving Licence......and this should be done online via the DVLA website. Wherever possible, avoid sending either of these documents in the post!!!

 

In your case, you have said that you have not moved, and that the address is correct. Granted, there may have been postal delays during COVID, however, for EACH PCN, there would have been 3 letters plus an additional letter from bailiffs (12 letters in total). For one letter to go missing for each PCN is believable, but for all of them to go missing.....not so believable. Are you absolutely sure about the address? Have you checked your V5C (Log Book). 

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The council did not advise me to submit a TEC, they have maintained that the bailiff efforts to extract at least £513 from me, will continue. 
 

the council has written 2 letters refusing to change their decision. Both letters which were attached to an email , are addressed to my previous place of residence , which must be where they sent the NTO and other correspondence. Someone has advised me to submit a TEC

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