UKCPM Spycar PCN - Now Gladstones/PAPLOC - Trinity Park Roadways, Birmingham

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Total waste of time.

You have exceeded their  rules by 5 minutes!!

They will want you hung drawn and quartered for that.

Well a £100 charge at least.

 

The other danger by writing to them is that you may reveal that you were driving which would lose you the protection that the keeper has with POFA.,

 

best to say nothing and do some research so that when the time is right you can tell them to jog on.

 

To help us to get to that time please read the instructions below and fill out the relevant part

 

 

We would also need to see the photos of the signage  where you got the ticket

-they are usually pretty poor and incapable of forming a contract with any one let alone a motorist.

So no need to pay them a penny.

 

When you fill out the above questions, could you also please include a copy of the PCN front and back. in PDF ONLY read upload

They are pretty poor as well quite often and not POFA compliant.

 

Once we have a view of those  we will pick out all their mistakes to show why you owe them nothing.

 

That will not stop them from trying to scare you with lies and threats and Court cases that have been won by other parking companies-not them since they rarely win .

[lookinforinfo]

Trouble is that CPM are an IPC company.

[lookinforinfo]

This is one of their cunningly worded invitations to pay some money.

Of course it is to be ignored and filed away with all your other correspondence from the crooks.

 

You could put in a complaint to the FCA about their letter though just to concentrate the minds at UKPCM.

You complain that UK... are using unregulated debt collectors that are sending out letters that are unfair and untrue.

 

Just because you are taken to Court does not mean that you will get a CCJ.

You would only get that if you were found guilty which is highly unlikely.

And even if you did lose, as long as you paid off the Court fine within a month, the CCJ would be quashed. 

 

They are also demanding an extra £60 for debt collection.

Whilst it may be on the car park signage, it only applies to the driver, not the keeper and they have not yet established under which category I am in.

 

Additionally, under the OFT Debt Guidance any allowed charge for debt collection should be proportionate to the main debt.

And as this is a blanket sum applied to all PCNs, the charge is obviously not based on the actual cost of collection.

 

This might have the additional effect of making UK... a bit chary about taking matters any further with you knowing that the FCA are involved.

 

[lookinforinfo]

I do like the letter but I feel the way you have said some things could be just over the line of being libellous. And the last thing you need if you don't want to pay them a penny is to leave yourself open to be sued. It can be expensive.

Rather than you saying they are unscrupulous which if untrue would be libellous, ascribe the accusation to some one else so that you couldn't be accused. If  you look at Gladstones on Trust Pilot for instance -loads of complaints there. There is even a solicitor who gave them Nil Points and said he would complain to the SRA about them. There were 42 reviews about them and 98% per bad. I am surprised that they got 2 excellent when all the rest were one star??

And I am not sure that starting off with the words "Rumour has it----" might protect you either. Best to remove it altogether.

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"Bloody awful" is quite constrained and not at all libellous.

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Gladstones are very strange. They are saying you haven't given them a defence when thye haven't bothered to produce a case that's worth defending.