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    • I see, shame, I think if a claim is 'someone was served' then proof of that should be mandatory. Appreciate your input into the WS whenever you get chance, thanks in advance
    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
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Just as a note: Barclaycard are well known for cashing the DPA cheque onto your Barclaycard balance instead of using it for the DPA request. Id check your balance to see if theyve done this.

Abbey Claim

27/03/06 Served Claim, acknowledged 05/04/06, 24/04/06 Defence entered & 50% offer. 25/04/06 accepted 100% ofer via email.

 

Alliance & Leicester

LBA sent 27/06/06, Claim Started 25/07/06, 14/08/06 Charges refunded!

 

Barclaycard: DPA 21/04/06. Prelim 12/05/06, LBA 26/05/06, Claim issued on 27th June. Acknowledged 03/7/06, 20/10/06 Court Date Set: 8th December

 

Barclays: DPA 21/04/06, statements arrived 02/05/06, prelim 06/05/06, 21/05, LBA, Barclays offered 50% 1 day after LBA deadline. Refused and claim started 5/6/06. Acknowledged 9/6/06, defence entered 07/07/06, allocation questionnaire sent off. Court Date October 25th, case settled 24/10/06

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Statements back to May 2004 arrived on Saturday. Usual letter about the microfishe. There was also a very large computer printout regarding the complete account history. It is a bit confusing but interesting. Hidden on one of the pages it states the number of missed payments and the number of times over the limit during the account history.

 

My first approach for payment will be based on this number X by £20

 

I will also continue with the SAR for the missing years and add that to the summons if they do not comply

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Roger, where on the printout were the hidden details about late payments & overlimit charges etc? I can't find anything like that on the printout they sent my son. What was the heading on the section sheet?

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I had two sets of prfintouts one for each of my sons.

 

On one of them it is on the bottom of page four under heading Cardholder / account details

 

It has a sub heading Months overlimit and then a number

 

Then just underneath about 3 lines further down it has number of times one payment missed

 

 

On the second sons printout it has the same info about Months overlimit and missed payments but in missed payments it has 0 having looked at ther statements I have he has deffinately missed some payments so I havnt worked out why it says 0.

 

I havnt had a great deal of time to study it in detail which I will do tomorrow and try and make some sense of it.

 

Ill let you know if I can deciphere it in more detail

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Thanks Roger. I KNOW my son was overlimit and late with payment many many times so I think I may have to follow Bookworm's route and make something up to try and force their hand!

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Having examined the print out all day it makes no sense at all. In fact it bears no resembalance to the statements that I have from May 2004.

 

I may sit on these for a few days and hopefully the DPA issue with Barclaycard will be sorted.

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Hows your claim going?

Abbey Claim

27/03/06 Served Claim, acknowledged 05/04/06, 24/04/06 Defence entered & 50% offer. 25/04/06 accepted 100% ofer via email.

 

Alliance & Leicester

LBA sent 27/06/06, Claim Started 25/07/06, 14/08/06 Charges refunded!

 

Barclaycard: DPA 21/04/06. Prelim 12/05/06, LBA 26/05/06, Claim issued on 27th June. Acknowledged 03/7/06, 20/10/06 Court Date Set: 8th December

 

Barclays: DPA 21/04/06, statements arrived 02/05/06, prelim 06/05/06, 21/05, LBA, Barclays offered 50% 1 day after LBA deadline. Refused and claim started 5/6/06. Acknowledged 9/6/06, defence entered 07/07/06, allocation questionnaire sent off. Court Date October 25th, case settled 24/10/06

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Ive got three others at the Money claim stage so Im holding off on this one for a while.

 

It gets surprisingly busy once it gets going.

 

Im rather hoping someone will have made Barclaycard disclose statements before May 2004 before I start on this claim, make life a little easier

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Just to let you know, i have started a claim against Barclaycard (~i have my own thread), they refused to send all statements and i have therefore started a claim against them for estimated interest and included in my claim that Barclaycard failed to send all information under the DPA request.

 

Its now up to them to correct the amount/provide the statements, so hopefully i would of forced them to send the statements or to confirm the actual charge amounts. Am sure you could do the same.

Abbey Claim

27/03/06 Served Claim, acknowledged 05/04/06, 24/04/06 Defence entered & 50% offer. 25/04/06 accepted 100% ofer via email.

 

Alliance & Leicester

LBA sent 27/06/06, Claim Started 25/07/06, 14/08/06 Charges refunded!

 

Barclaycard: DPA 21/04/06. Prelim 12/05/06, LBA 26/05/06, Claim issued on 27th June. Acknowledged 03/7/06, 20/10/06 Court Date Set: 8th December

 

Barclays: DPA 21/04/06, statements arrived 02/05/06, prelim 06/05/06, 21/05, LBA, Barclays offered 50% 1 day after LBA deadline. Refused and claim started 5/6/06. Acknowledged 9/6/06, defence entered 07/07/06, allocation questionnaire sent off. Court Date October 25th, case settled 24/10/06

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LBA sent to barclaycard 13.7.06. Only covers charges from May 2004 560GBP. When they have kindly returned these charges I will use some of the money to pay for the pre 2004 statements. Make another claim and include the 3quid per statement as costs.

 

This seems the least troublesome route and it can all be done via MCOL. Potentially I could lose about 100 GBP getting the statements but Im about 2 grand up at the moment and feeling lucky.

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Barclay cards only response to the LBA was a default letter received today.

 

MCOL completed for just short of 600 Quid. This only covers from May 2004. I expect at least that again when This is won and I pay for the remainder of statements

 

Letter to Barclay card reminding them of S13 / 6 of Banking Code re defaulting accounts in dispute

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Getting a letter a day from Barclaycard at the moment. Several apologising about the delay in dealing with my complaint about threatening to default an account in dispute. I can bearly be bothered to open them they contain so much rubbish.

 

Received barclaycards defence and AQ today

 

same old Mr Jeremiah

 

Hes gonna be sick off me by Christmas

 

3 ongoing with Barclays and one settled !!

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Barclays defended and AQ completed and sent in.

 

They have very kindly credited the account with 260.00 without any mention of it being in settlement just being the difference between 12.00 and 20.00

 

They gave me no choice of accepting it or not just credited the account.

 

I think I will write to the court stating the claim has been part settled but the case for the rest goes on.

 

Re the microfishe issue. I will write to Barclaycard and remind them that in light of the decision re Abbeys microfishe best they coff up with the missing 2 years ASAP.

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I've also gone down this route, I only sent the Preliminary letter last week, L.B.A due to be sent on 27th October.

 

 

Just to let you know, i have started a claim against Barclaycard (~i have my own thread), they refused to send all statements and i have therefore started a claim against them for estimated interest and included in my claim that Barclaycard failed to send all information under the Data Protection Act request.

 

Its now up to them to correct the amount/provide the statements, so hopefully i would of forced them to send the statements or to confirm the actual charge amounts. Am sure you could do the same.

Barclaycard

S.A.R sent 27th Sep

Partial Statements (Microfiche etc) received 5th Oct

Preliminary Request (Estimated Charges £864) Sent 11th Oct

L.B.A (Data Protection Act) Sent 12th oct

£288 Offered 18th Oct

Letter Before Action Sent 27th October

MCOL 10th November

Claim Acknowledged 29th November

Court Date Set for 27th April

 

Captial One

S.A.R sent 27th Sep

L.B.A (Data Protection Act) Sent 4th November

Preliminary Request for £633 and removal of default sent 22 November

L.B.A Sent 12th December

N1 Filed 25th Janaury

 

 

Halifax

S.A.R sent 11th Sep

Preliminary Request for £327.95 sent 30th Oct

L.B.A sent 15th November

MCOL 29th November

Settled - £443.98 14th December

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Directions hearing has been set for 25th October.

 

Same day and time as my daughters so its gonna be a family day out

 

looking at the court list there is about 20 bank charges cases all on the same day.

 

Any one else at Kingston County court next wednesday !!!

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Having been refunded the charges since may 2004 I wrote to Barclaycard requesting statements pre May 2004.

 

They claimed that they are correct and the IC is wrong but supplied them in any case. They also stated that they wouldnt communicate anymore with me regarding this matter.

 

nice of them.

 

Ive worked out they owe another 120.00. IAP will be going out Monday

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I decided to spend a bit of time calulating exactly the interest they had charged on these older charges. Took about 2 hours and a calculater but managed to come out with a figure of about £350.

 

IAP sent and quick reply offering £120

 

LBA will be sent next week refusing the offer

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I was allowed to apply for a judgement online a couple of days ago due to the fact that Barclays had not entered a defence.

 

MCOL now states that judgement rejected defence entered on the 24.4.07.

 

This is a bit strange as I didnt fill the MCOL until the 23.4.07

 

Perhaps MCOL are getting a bit stretched.

 

anyway barclaycard part two continues.

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Direction hearing is set for 2.15 today

 

The litigation team at Barclays are adamant a representative will be attending.

 

Im looking forward to finally getting near a court

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Final update.

 

Appeared at court on the 25th and did in fact meet the Barclays barrister. Its a shame she didnt bring with her anything relevant to the case and as a result it was adjourned

 

Then I had had an interesting morning with mercers on the phone. For some reason Barclaycard decided to refer the balance to mercers for collection which considering where inbetween court cases I thought was a bit un called for.

 

I continually told mercers the matter was in dispute and that they should refer it back to barclaycard.

 

Their only answer seemed to be "how much would you like to pay today sir"

 

I did try to ring Barclaycard but did a tour of the sub continent and eventually gave up.

 

In a flash of inspiration I decided to email Paul Haut at Barclays litigation to see if he could help. He was very amiable and he agreed to settle for the full amount. I did have a brief chat with him about the up and coming test case and he said pending that case they would only settle Credit card claims and wouldnt entertain any settlement on the overdraft charges.

 

If hes good to his word this should be the end of this particular claim allthough I have a feeling that Barclaycard have sneaked a cheeky little default on the credit file which will result in a complaint to the FSA in due course and a further 400.00 bill for barclaycard.

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Just a quick update.

 

As suspected Barclaycard had registered a default whilst the matter was in dispute so I decided to impliment the banks complaint proceedure alleging they had breached the banking code.

 

That was a torturous affair to say the least but eventually last week they agreed to remove the default.

 

A good result eventually.

 

Im just about finished with the re claiming game having got back almost every single penny paid by the kids.

 

I wish you all good luck when the bun fest resumes next year that is assuming the banks havnt all gone bust as a result of their greed in the mortgage business.

 

If the judgment goes against them next year it could be the final nail in the coffin and perhaps then we can get back to ethical local banking with decent customer service at a reasnoble cost.

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