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    • no DCA is a bailiff end of neither do they have any legal powers whatsoever. i would write to everyone simply giving your current abroad address , inc proof of residency. that will stop all threats going to anywhere else.  
    • Thanks for your prompt reply. I have some questions, please: When you say nothing will happen, my 80 year-old mother is worried about potential DCA doorsteppers if/when the debts are sold on - she is a very sweet, quite vulnerable lady and she is worried she may be bullied and harrassed.  If they do come knocking, what should she say?  I told her to say she knows nothing about any of it and they have no right to come knocking on her door and to warn them police will be informed if they come back.  Problem is, I don't think she would be strong enough and can easily be bullied into saying more than she intended once the door has been answered. Next questions: 1)  Should I inform all my lenders that I have moved abroad before defaulting (to avoid the quirky English law loophole thingy that could end up in a CCJ or worse once a DCA gets hold of it)?  2)  Can/should I provide an alternative UK correspondence address to my lenders instead of my mother's home address e.g. my virtual office address for my business - would the lenders accept this as I live abroad now and don't live at my mother's address?  Can I just write and tell them, without any further ado and not get into any further questions about it and cease further correspondence with them and default?  And would this stop DCAs coming to my mother's house as it would not be my current residential address on the lenders files when passed to the DCA?  Do they doorstep previous addresses? 3)  If I don't provide a UK correspondence address will I be at risk of not being aware of any Letters of Claim etc and legal proceedings notices etc not reaching me (there's no reliable postal system in the developing country I've moved to).  Worried this would mean I could end up being taken to court without being aware of it and could end up in a worse situation. 2) What exactly will go on my credit file once I've defaulted, assuming no legal action is taken against me?    4) Should I contact any of my lenders and inform them I have zero assets.  TSB & Sainsburys already have I&E info from me which shows my income  @ £1200/mth is below the combined total of my debt repayments @ £1300/mth and that my income only just covers essential costs of living @ £1200/mth.  Could it be useful to be on my file that I have no assets, so that the DCA clearly see this when the debt is passed to them? Thanks again for any advice.
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letter received from good old carpquest,

those selfless souls

(I think an 'r' needs adding to the start of that word for them) who are toiling thanklessly away on behalf of their [heavily connected] client, Erudio [arrows], in relation to a claim for student loans.

 

Following a number of 'you owe this amount, please contact us' style letters, this latest letter seems more decisive regarding potential court proceedings by Erudio.

Which is why I need a little help:

 

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NOTE: Is it possible to add the original letter text here for only admin to see?

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Is this the 'next level' of scare tactics? Or is it close enough to a 'letter before action' to start making definite court defence preparations right now?

 

Because rather than using words like 'may' or 'might', the letter states:

 

"If we do not receive contact from you...our client will be instructing a solicitor to commence court proceedings..."

 

"...should no contact be forthcoming...your account will be passed to our clients' solicitors..."

 

As Erudio has already stated that this account is dealt with by capquest, then are those words as good as coming from Erudio itself?

 

Of potential note though is that the requested action stated in the letter is based upon 'contact' and to 'engage' with them - not in 'making payment' to them.

 

Just as background to this particular situation:

 

  • I didn't continue with deferment once the government sold on the loans to these Erudio.
  • Instead I refused to acknowledge the loan (in writing) along with a CCA request.
  • The (eventual) paperwork I received merely showed that any original documentation was poorly micro-fiched, incomplete, and partly illegible. The rest was, of course, 'reconstituted' for the purposes of the CCA.
  • Following that I have not responded in any shape or form, other than to receive their letters of default, phishing letters, and 'passed on to caquest' notices.

I'm not in panic mode or anything, as I decided to see things through this way

- whatever the outcome

- when refusing to acknowledge Erudio's dubious acquisition of loans in the first place.

But any advice on what options/steps to take next in this situation would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Thanks for your time (and apologies for anything not made clear enough).

 

PS:

What's the best way to add content from the letter itself (if required) for limited viewing?

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I love the UN by the way. Today we are going to be making a dingy out of a skip *__*

 

Blank out the personal info along with barcodes on the letter and upload.

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When was the last payment for this account?

Looks Scary... Only the Owner of the debt can do legal. Capquest are not such as they state "client"...

Interesting... Id wait for more site team to come along on this one.

 

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I can instruct my dog to sit

if it does what a tell it

is a totally different matter.

the only downside to what you have done is to p'haps leave your credit file open to a default?

unless you already defaulted years ago?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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>> "the only downside to what you have done is to p'haps leave your credit file open to a default?"

 

 

True indeed - but the default is kind of a non-issue to me (in the big scheme of things, anyway). I can put up with that.

What I'm trying to ascertain is whether this is purely another 'put the frighteners on' letter, or whether it is indeed a true precursor to court action?

 

 

Is this anywhere close to constituting an actual 'letter before action'? Or does that have to come from the actual claimant (or via its legal team), rather than its appointed collection-corp thug?

 

 

In my shoes, dx100uk, would you fire off a letter re-stating that the debt is not acknowledged, or wait to see if there is any actual bite behind the bark?

 

 

(And thanks again to you both for taking the time to respond.)

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it is NOT an LBA.

its a phishing letter.

 

 

if/if not any of the fleecing DCA's on any debt issue a court claim is totally random.

if/if not theyt abide by any supposed pre-action protocol, is again totally random.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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While I thank you for the time and info provided so far, is anyone willing to help me with a knowledgeable opinion on taking (or not) the next step? (see questions above, post #8).

[NOTE: I fully realise it would be only opinion, and not 'legal' advice in any shape or form.]

 

I appreciate this is effectively a phishing letter - but it is a step up from the normal variety. So is this a time to re-request proof of debt (via the original document(s) from early 1990s)? Or is this a time to 'hold the line' and not respond to it at all?

 

Thanks in advance.

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you sit on your hands!

 

that's a std letter we've seen it 1000's of times here on all debts capquest chase

 

just to check something

slc are aware of your current address?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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> "...slc are aware of your current address?"

Yes - hopefully no back doors here! :)

 

 

And thank you for the info dx - I hadn't been able to find that letter instance (or approximation of it) so far. Didn't think to check all the other dirty debt avenues they've got their mits in. Good to know it's par for the course.

 

 

Thanks for the forum - such a great resource. Will update in the future with any follow-ups of note.

In the meantime, I wish you all a good weekend.

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