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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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That is why I state theT&C must be linked to your signiture either by number or letter and not simply referred to as see overleaf otherwise any T&C could be used and you would have signed and agreed to something not within the signitory area,This forms a correctly executed valid CCA along with the perscribed terms.

 

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Ahhh I see right so I'll get defence off tomorrow and see what happens next. Thanks for the advice - feeling much better now. While you are about do you know what will happen with regards to me disputing and the ex admitting? We were both served on the same claim number? Forwarned is forarmed as they say.

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Ahhh I see right so I'll get defence off tomorrow and see what happens next. Thanks for the advice - feeling much better now. While you are about do you know what will happen with regards to me disputing and the ex admitting? We were both served on the same claim number? Forwarned is forarmed as they say.

 

 

Its imperative that you both defend and both submit defences and both AoS with the intention to defend.Everything in duplicate

 

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Would love to do that Andy but he sent his to his Debt management company who admitted liability before I could get them to stop! So I'm just wondering what might happen as I'm defending it. Is there anyway he could withdraw his admittance - they had to be back middle of last week i think. I don't want this to be mucked up now!

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Change his AoS to defend all is this a MCOL summons?

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I don't know what MCOL means but this was a claim from Gateshead county court. I returned defending all the claim and his was returned admitting liability and completing the income and expenditure stuff. They were returned early last week - is it too late for his to be changed? How could he go about getting it changed? What will happen if it can't be changed - could we get it set aside if it is ruled on this and then defend later? So many questions I'm panicing again now!!

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if not write a letter to the case manager explaining your circumstances ie seperated and that there as been an oversight and that he wishes to change his plea,Dont panic it can be changed

 

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Just address or ask for the Case manager dealing with your claim number and explain the situation he will have to submit the same defence and also request info via the CPR everything same as you

 

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Hi I have been battling a court order from NR with help from this site. We have now had a court date set of 6 August and I would be grateful for any advice on likely next steps and how I should raise my arguement in court/what is likely to happen. Here is most of the documents involved:

 

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Hi Worried

 

I summise the last part of your post is the Claimants Witness Statement in support for their Summary Judgement Application.So 6th August is the date for their application hearing am i correct in presuming?

Ok have you responded also by submitting your own Witness Statement or made an application objecting to the application?

Any statement by yourself must be submitted not less than 7 days before that date.

Application for Summary Judgement can also backfire on the Claimant and the case can be struck out at the hearing subject to what argument you have put forward in response to their application.

If you can clarify the above

 

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Hi Andy,

 

Thanks for the response.

 

I think the last part is the letter that their solicitors sent with the allocation questionnaire so not sure if its a witness statement - it just appeared to be a response to our original defence. All I received was a letter from the court saying the case should be heard by a judge and date set is 6th August. No information on providing witness statements or anything....

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Take a close look at the Claimants copy AQ under the section applications check if they intended to make any, if yes check with the CC dealing with the case and ask if they have made any applications post AQ.I could be wrong but the above looks like a Witness Statement.

 

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Hi Worried

Take a close look at the Claimants copy AQ under the section applications check if they intended to make any, if yes check with the CC dealing with the case and ask if they have made any applications post AQ.I could be wrong but the above looks like a Witness Statement.

 

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I think its just what it states to be.. a reply to the defence. They are entitled to reply to the defence if they think it requires it.

 

Edit: Worriedanxious... did anybody help you with your defence or did you just copy it from another case?

 

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Yes just checked all the dates and paperwork too early for an application.(or is it)

Apolgies Worried.

 

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In the other information part they have entered yes for applications in the immediate future and said for "strike out/summary judgement"

 

In regards to my defence I just completed it myself pulled from similar cases on here.

 

I did send of a CCA request to NR and received a response requesting a certified copy of a legal document and signatures!

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In the other information part they have entered yes for applications in the immediate future and said for "strike out/summary judgement" Keep checking Worried if they make application

 

In regards to my defence I just completed it myself pulled from similar cases on here.

 

I did send of a CCA request to NR and received a response requesting a certified copy of a legal document and signatures!

 

So therefore they are in Default of your request did you request this pre or post Litigation?

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Ok, the reason I asked about the defence is its a bit generic and hence the reason that I think you'll receive a summary judgment application in the post shortly as indicated by their AQ.

 

To that end I think you need to prepare a witness statement, this needs to be in a specific format and has to reply to their claim points paragraph by paragraph. Only thing I'm not sure of is do you reply to their initial claim or is it now the reply to your defence you have to address?

 

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Will it detail that when it arrives or would somebody else know? I forgot to bring the paperwork with me today so I will phone the court tomorrow and see if anything further has happened.

 

Thinking about it logically it probably is a witness statement responding to their reply to your defence. Its probably why they did the reply as they've put a lot of detail in there.

 

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Ok that would make sense. What sort of things do I need to detail and are there any other threads that would give me an idea of how to complete a witness statement? Do you have any idea of timescales on this? I'm not sure when I should be chasing the court if I don't receive anything (my post is a bit touch and go!)

 

Also I was just wondering what is likely to happen in court - will a final judgement be made or could another date be set? The judge has only set 25 minutes for the hearing so it appears it could be very cut and dry but I don't know in who's favour?

 

Thanks for all the help.

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