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It's your house, go there, change the locks and agree with the contractors a mutual convenient time for them to collect their tools and material.

They will surely tell you that you own money, but they can only sue you.

I would video all contact with them and at first sign of stupidity (aggression) call the police.

Kick them out of your house and employ a proper contractor who should give you a quote to stick to.

Having an open ended estimate and charging £50k for electric is just criminal (not literally but it should be)

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Don't you have your own keys?

If you don't, It's your house so surely you know how to break in.

Usually there's an easier entry in every home and the owner knows about this.

If your house is secure, get a locksmith to drill the lock or, just break a small window panel.

It would be a small price to pay compared to £50k for electric.

The story about h&s and insurance is cow manure.

Remember, this is your house and you can enter it whenever you want.

Get in and change the locks.

Any claim they would submit would be hilarious considering they asked for £50k for electric.

The judge would not need to be an expert to know that this is a clear rip off price based on the unclear terms of your quote.

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Just go to your house and gain entry by any means.

They are builders, not csi!!!

Get into your house and lock them out.

Then tell them to jog off because the material belongs to you.

Nothing they can do apart from swearing and threatening which you will duly video record and report to police.

Also make sure that any telephone conversation is recorded.

Make their life a misery like they have done to you, report any stupid behaviour to the police and remember that to gain the old bill attention you need to use these precise words: "I now fear for my life and that of my family".

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Hi Mrsshe, you have been advised by several members to get into your house and change the locks.

What are you waiting for?

A court order to enter your own house?

The h&s rubbish is just that, rubbish.

Get a locksmith and break in, otherwise it will be months before you get anywhere.

It's your house, only the courts and emergency services can stop you from entering.

Break in.

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For crying out loud!

Please, do yourself a favour: Stop this nonsense about contracts and paperwork now.

Make one single telephone call to a local locksmith (no strain to your eyes) e arrange to get into your property and change the locks.

Total cost: £300 at most.

I would do it for £50 plus new locks.

Then send an email to builders with one line: YOU ARE SACKED!.

Total saving: £50K just for electric plus potentially tens of thousand more and a lot of worries and aggravations.

 

Once you have got rid of them, find a local building firm that deals with building work rather than super complicated legal contracts and let them do the work on a fixed price.

I have been in the building game all my life and this is how I have always dealt with customers:

Quote:

Listed all necessary work step by step up to final cleaning.

Listed all main and structural material to be used.

If detailed architect drawings and structural engineer report are present, refer to them.

Price subjected to change only if underground services and hidden damage is found.

 

Contract:

1. Refer to quote and attach it to describe work to be done

2. Price to be paid and at what stage

3. Estimated start and completion date.

4. All work to be checked by council building control and passed accordingly to their own schedule.

 

That's it.

No complications, no gibberish, no legal loopholes to overcharge the customer or even threaten them.

Never had a legal threat, my customers are always welcome in their own home (unless we are at an hazardous point of the construction) and very very rarely I had to charge extra for hidden damage.

The extra was never more than £1k.

 

Please, stop reading that toilet paper they call contract.

Put it to good use and wipe your behind with it.

These guys are very used to this game of charging megamoney and point at their contract.

Don't fall for it (you already have but you can recover).

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Unfortunately it's difficult to think straight when you've been done for £30k by criminals.

There's always the fear of doing something illegal against the criminals and get in trouble.

Media have been instilling this fear for ages by reporting half stories of decent people done by the law for standing up to criminals.

Not trying to defend the undefendable, but I can understand that after losing £30k, the reaction could be either to be very cautious and try to legally recover the money without making any mistake, or go crazy and take the law into your own hands.

Very little in between in my experience.

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