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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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That's a joke right, isn't it the main qualification of getting a job with Rossendales that you have 'no common sense'.

 

Was the bailiff aware he was filming his own disgraceful actions ?

 

They probably were, but if it was their normal practice it would not have concerned them.

 

 

Then again maybe not, isn't 'doh' another qualification to being recruited.

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I have not commented on this thread as it very quickly went 'off topic' about paying the council direct, 'proceeds' etc and with the greatest of respect, these are subjects that quite frankly are becoming tiresome.

 

The proposed publication of the report has been known about for the best part of the last two months and at a meeting that I was at last week, the LGO confirmed that Rossendales had received a prior copy of the report.

 

The events complained about were from BEFORE the new regulations took affect last April but that aside, the complaint is nonetheless very important. Thankfully, under the new regulations there is now a far greater responsibility on the enforcement agent to ensure that goods actually BELONG to the debtor given that this is clearly stated in the actual regulations. Prior to April 2014 it was always the case that bailiffs would be able to rely upon a well known Court of Appeal case that confirmed that bailiffs can assume that goods on the premises belong to the debtor. Thankfully that case along with many others that dealt with 'distress' were repealed last April.

 

At the meeting last week the Ombudsman made very clear the point that local authorities can sub contract out enforcement of a debt but cannot sub contract out THEIR responsibility to deal with complaints.

 

Following publication of this report there will of course now be a lot of discussion about 'body worn' camera's and in particular the length of time that footage is kept. There is a great deal of difficulty balancing the report with the official guidance from the Information Commissioners Office.

 

The 'One Year' review into the bailiff regulations ended last Friday and naturally I have referred to this report in my representation to the Ministry of Justice as it does raise a number of important points that may well impact on the review (which concerns any 'unintended consequences' of the regulations.

 

I intend making further comments about the report later today.

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Ok, you say the new regs ensure that goods belong to the debtor, so what about that other thread where it was ok for a bailiff to take Hire Purchase goods if there was enough equity in it ?

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Ok, you say the new regs ensure that goods belong to the debtor, so what about that other thread where it was ok for a bailiff to take Hire Purchase goods if there was enough equity in it ?

 

There can be no doubt at all that the 'intention' of the Ministry of Justice when introducing these regultions was that goods subject that are subject to Hire Purchase would be EXEMPT. Regrettably for all debtors, a highly inexperienced person (with an inability to understand the regulations) encouraged a debtor to hire him as a McKenzie friend to draft an injunction against a local authority. The result being that the case naturally went to a proper trial and the Judge closely examinded the regulations and ruled that there could be a 'beneficial interest' to the debtor in the hire purchase vehicle. It was up to the debtor to appeal. He will not do so (and indeed he is outside of the time limit). Accordingly, there is here is now a judgment that is likely to harm many debtors.

 

I cannot see that Ministry of Justice will amend this clause (beneficial interest) given that it is of huge relevance to other goods (in particular property).

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So if it is unlikely to be amended, then bailiffs have full carte blanche to take everything and anything and all debtors rights have been recinded.

 

Clarity is desperatley needed about 'beneficial interest' and hopefully this will be addressed when the results of the 'One Year' review are made public later in the year.

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Ok, you say the new regs ensure that goods belong to the debtor, so what about that other thread where it was ok for a bailiff to take Hire Purchase goods if there was enough equity in it ?

 

I have just been sent a very detailed analysis of this case by John Kruse which I will read later and will update the thread once I have done so.

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If that is his BSB 37 it is not as detailed or conclusive as you might hope.

 

 

Schedule 12 S. 10 says “An enforcement agent may take control of goods only if they are goods of the debtor.”

 

 

Under S.3 of Schedule 12:-

 

 

 

  • Goods of the debtor are goods in which the debtor has an interest .
  • goods are property of any description other than land and
  • interest is a beneficial interest.

 

 

So Schedule 12 is saying if the debtor has a beneficial interest in goods an EA can take control of those goods. John Kruse's assertion that the actual goods are not available, only the interest in them is, therefore, surely just untrue. As I've said before what we need is a definition of "beneficial interest" and sadly this is not it. He does not even mention "beneficial."

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I think that as far as HP is concerned there is no interest in the goods, as they do not belong in any part to the debtor.

 

The situation is further complicated by the restriction placed on the creditor from repossessing the vehicle on their behalf, section 90 of the consumer credit act prohibits it.

 

I know JK raises this point in several of his articles.

 

Personally i think the beneficial interest has more to do with assignment of rights to the goods under the LOPA 1925. Otherwise the debtor could use the equity available and issue a charge raising capital on it, even though the property were bound.

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I think that as far as HP is concerned there is no interest in the goods, as they do not belong in any part to the debtor.

 

The situation is further complicated by the restriction placed on the creditor from repossessing the vehicle on their behalf, section 90 of the consumer credit act prohibits it.

 

I know JK raises this point in several of his articles.

 

Personally i think the beneficial interest has more to do with assignment of rights to the goods under the LOPA 1925. Otherwise the debtor could use the equity available and issue a charge raising capital on it, even though the property were bound.

 

I know that this is subject that you have a lot of experience in so I will send you a copy of JK's analysis in a few moments. He would not want it published on the forum but I am sure that he would have no objections to me sending a copy to you.

 

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Very kind, I will be very interested to read it :)

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We need some sort of Test Case or instructions altering EA behaviour regarding third party goods.

 

Most Householders don't have receipts for much of their stuff, unless it is new - I don't have receipts for anything in my flat, and a lot is second hand, so if an EA was stood in here because a homeless mate with a debt was staying here, I would be unable to prove ownership!

 

In such a case, the EA surely should step back and allow the third party to get to the court and do a stat dec? Certainly In the situations this thread is about, where it is obvious the Debtor wont own everything, as they are only lodging at the address, and the Householder can prove they are the Householder, logic in that situation dictates that the debtor wont own everything there.

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Still won't stop he EA trying it on though Caled, although if someone is sofa surfing they could also do a stat dec to that effect stating they own diddly squat as they are not a permanent resident at the address so no property etc. might work.

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