Reverend Paul Nicolson wins Judicial Review to challenge the fees councils charge when applying for a Liability Order.

[outlawla]

Rev Paul Nicolson seeks declaration from auditors that Haringey's £125 council tax court costs are unlawful

[Coughdrop]

Good! It is a shame there is no vehicle whereby, given their total failure to perform their role even to the lowest of acceptable standards, the individual magistrates who rubber stamped this decision without asking any questions could not have their suitability for being a magistrate called into account.

 

If a few magistrates were disposed of to set an example, I suspect other LA's would quickly get their own houses in order.

[Bailiff Advice]

For many years the Magistrates have failed to question the amount of fees charged by local authorities when requesting permission to issue a Liability Order and yet, an almost identical situation is happening with convictions for using a TV without a valid licence. In such cases, the courts have been allowing Capita to recover a MINIMUM of £120 for each case.

[outlawla]

There is a fundamental misunderstanding that the costs associated with obtaining a liability order in the Magistrates' Court are to penalise the taxpayer.

 

Haringey Independent is apparently of that view:

 

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The meeting comes after the clergyman won a high court legal challenge to the £125 he was fined for non-payment on the grounds that it could not be established how that figure was arrived at

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[brassnecked]

There is a fundamental misunderstanding that the costs associated with obtaining a liability order in the Magistrates' Court are to penalise the taxpayer.

 

Haringey Independent is apparently of that view:

 

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The meeting comes after the clergyman won a high court legal challenge to the £125 he was fined for non-payment on the grounds that it could not be established how that figure was arrived at

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That is how the councils would like to see the public think, we know that they are NOT allowed to use it in that way nor as an additional source of revenue for the general fund.

[lookinforinfo]

Correct me if I am wrong but surely the only way that bailiffs would call over Council Tax would be if there was a Liability Order. So armed with that then the bailiffs

could not be accused of harassment.

[outlawla]

Rev Paul Nicolson seeks declaration from auditors that Haringey's £125 council tax court costs are unlawful

 

The article in the above post originally stated that the Reverend's meeting with the auditor would be on Monday 8 June 2015. It appears the meeting will be tomorrow (Friday 5 June 2015).

 

Haringey Independent

[HCEOs]

I'd be inclined to suggest that if the liability order has not been revoked then Equita still have every right to enforce in this matter.

[Marincor]

HCEOs, you are falling for the lie that is State Gangsterism. The lie being 'because we say we have the right to enforce and the power to do so, we are in the right". Or in true Goodfellas speak "F*** You Pay ME".

 

Once categorically and lawfully proven there is no debt, then there can be no liability and when the issuing court fails to answer my direct challenges, then there's definitely no liability!

 

Still waiting to find out how to attach my council tax bill.

[outlawla]

.... £991 subject to court proceeding.....

 

Here's another (only for £60) but it has appeared on my last two council tax bills and is for £60 that wasn't paid of the £70 standard summons costs that was appealed in the High Court.

[filrobbo]

Ok I have paid £120 extra on my council tax for LO for none payment even though I was paying (a cording to council not enough), how do I get this back or some of it.

[filrobbo]

I like that bit outlaw that stats if you have any suspicions of fraud.

[outlawla]

The Institute of Revenues Rating and Valuation (IRRV) has wasted no time in finding a way of cashing in on the Reverend's successful Judicial Review, by tailoring courses to council officers who have an involvement in recovery of council tax.

 

Even with the ticket prices (see below) pitched as they are, the workshops seem popular so if you want to guarantee a place I should get in quick:

 

Consequences of the Reverend Nicolson Case on Court Costs

FEES

The fee structure for this series of meetings is as follows:-

£75+vat - IRRV Members

£95+vat - Members of the IRRV Forum or Benefits Advisory Services or Organisational membership

£115+vat - Non-members

Lunch is included.

[Bailiff Advice]

The Institute of Revenues Rating and Valuation (IRRV) has wasted no time in finding a way of cashing in on the Reverend's successful Judicial Review, by tailoring courses to council officers who have an involvement in recovery of council tax.

 

Even with the ticket prices (see below) pitched as they are, the workshops seem popular so if you want to guarantee a place I should get in quick:

 

Consequences of the Reverend Nicolson Case on Court Costs

FEES

The fee structure for this series of meetings is as follows:-

£75+vat - IRRV Members

£95+vat - Members of the IRRV Forum or Benefits Advisory Services or Organisational membership

£115+vat - Non-members

Lunch is included.

 

Thank you for the update. I am meeting with David Magor this week so should find out more details about the courses.