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outlawla last won the day on August 7 2013

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  1. These fees are not so insignificant as they're being made out to be. In fact they're indefensible. Even the chairman of LACEF admits that fees have been set so favourably that even local authorities, if they brought enforcement in-house would be provided with a nice little earner. Article, page 42
  2. Isn't that the point? What other reason would someone obviously struggling to pay their council tax in the first place want to seek a lawful way out of incurring even more debt? The enforcement agent is merely called upon by the council in the hope that they will collect the money, there's no legal obligation for the debtor to engage with the council's contractor. EDIT: If the debtor is willing to pay the council, that only suggests that the council were irresponsible in the first place to instruct the bailiffs.
  3. It is essential to be mindful that the enforcement fees can only be recovered from the proceeds of enforcement. If you elect to pay your account directly, which you are lawfully entitled to do, there is no conceivable way that the payment is from the proceeds of enforcement.
  4. If you are referring to my allegations of perjury (NELC) or for perverting the course of justice (Grimsby Magistrates' court), then neither are mentioned in the witness statement, so why change the subject?
  5. Before you start making spurious statements, make sure you are fully aware of the facts. Suggested reading. Look at para 71 and start again. Are you on NELC or Grimsby Magistrates court's payroll or something?
  6. Nothing has changed. You are still wrong. Please get your facts right before posting utter **** like the above.
  7. Please get you facts right before posting utter **** like the above. EDIT: For a start, final column of Page 34
  8. Therefore, any money paid to the council in respect of the debtor's council tax account must be paid against that debt, otherwise the local authority is breaking the law.
  9. Obviously not the debtor's council tax account according to Birmingham City: " Enforcement agent fees are due to the enforcement agent and not to the council. They will not show on an individual's council tax or non-domestic rate account as they do not form part of the amount due to the authority .
  10. Is it a commonly held belief that being a vulnerable person removes the obligation to pay the debt ? P.S. You don't have to be (or claim to be) a vulnerable person if you would rather not interact with the bailiff. You just don't.
  11. Thanks for your reply. I'll put a formal complaint in, but include also why the council tax department haven't replied to a simple email in over a month. How can a local authority operate when they obviously have no admin staff? A complaint for the Local Government Ombudsman is being prepared, with it recommended that with the Parliamentary Ombudsman jointly investigates the MoJ's failings under powers granted by 2007 Regulatory Reform legislation. The papers will be with the LGO once all supporting documents have been finalised and complaint updated to reflect the latest maladministration. The complaint (LGO Complaint) is currently in draft form.
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