Coyle White Devine going to Court over UAE Bank Loan 'debt'

[nixkix66]

Hi All

 

Left UAE in early 2012.

Had a loan with a bank and intended to carry on paying the repayments after I got back.

 

Made one payment and then got a frantic call from the bank.

They were very concerned that I had left the UAE as advised by my UAE ex-employer.

 

They demanded full settlement and

when I explained this was impossible,

they said they would discuss internally and get back to me

 

I made a payment of the next instalment and went on line the next day to check the credit had gone into my UAE account from the UK bank.

 

The UAE bank account on line access was denied and I was unable to confirm if received etc.

Money left UK bank no problem, but no idea if received, so decided to wait for the UAE bank to contact me again.

 

No contact for 2 and half years until

 

a letter from Coyle White Devine which I know others have received, now demanding full settlement at least twice the original amount

 

Not sure what to do now.

 

Do I wait for the SD to arrive and have it set aside?

 

Do I contact CWD now via email and try and set up a repayment plan?

 

Any thoughts much appreciated

[unclebulgaria67]

I think you should write back to Coyle White Devine asking for proof that they been instructed to act for the UAE bank.

i.e Something from the UAE bank confirming that they have passed it to CWD.

 

 

Also I would suggest that you ask for an up to date statement of account to be provided by the UAE bank,

together with a copy of the terms and conditions for the account.

Send the letter by recorded delivery.

 

Don't mention anything about owing the debt or making payments at this stage.

 

A lot of threats get made by these firms representing UAE banks, but of course you can defend any actions they look to take in UK courts

and if necessary agree payments.

 

 

You should not look to enter into any agreement or make payments,

until you have sent the letter as advised and have received the information.

[oleg]

. . . and head your letter "This is not an acknowledgment of any debt."

Do not rush into anything so rash as a payment plan at this stage, particularly if the amount has almost doubled since you set sail from the Gulf.

And stay clear of all GCC countries or you could well find yourself in the clink. Don't even transit an airport.

[nixkix66]

Thank you for the advice, much appreciated.

 

Do I really need a recorded letter, as I have email contact for them which would be quicker.

 

Really want to move this forward quickly if possible

 

They have also sent the same letter to the address I lived in with my ex-wife.

 

We split 8 years ago.

 

She is not best pleased!!

 

How can I stop them writing to me at my old address?

[oleg]

No, recorded isn't mandatory.

 

 

Some prefer to use it as an extra security whilst others are content just to obtain free proof of posting slip from post office.

 

They sent to your ex in case they couldn't nail you down at your own address or possibly to raise the stakes,

in which they appear to have succeeded.

 

 

They should stop if you add a sentence to your letter to that effect,

 

 

particularly as you will have acknowledged their initial overture from your proper address.

[nixkix66]

Thank you for the response.

I have read numerous threads on CWD actions, but not seen how others have fared in dealing with SD's etc.

I believe CWD cannot turn down a reasonable repayment plan, when it comes to it.

[AndyOrch]

Thread moved to the appropriate forum

 

Regards

 

Andy

[nixkix66]

Does anyone have any feedback on how they faired after getting a SD set aside?

[unclebulgaria67]

Thank you for the response. I have read numerous threads on CWD actions, but not seen how others have fared in dealing with SD's etc. I believe CWD cannot turn down a reasonable repayment plan, when it comes to it.

 

You should make sure you have evidence of sending the letter, as it may come in handy if this every went to court. Judges apparently like seeing that debtors have been in contact with those chasing a debt, making reasonable requests, negotiating etc.

 

The FCA published some rules on the use of SD's in Apirl 2014, which basically stated that bankruptcy should not be used as the first option to enforce a debt, if there are other ways available. There is nothing to stop a UAE creditor going to a UK county court to make a normal court claim.

 

If you do receive an SD, get some advice, as many of these contain errors and are easily challenged. If you search online, there are Solicitors out there who will sometimes take cases on a no win no fee basis to challenge SD's. as they can earn their costs from the creditors Solicitors without much effort.

[nixkix66]

thanks for the advice. if it goes anywhere it will probably end up with a repayment plan. But before that a way to go with getting infor from CWD on assignment debt detail etc.

[oleg]

As you've noticed ppl often come on here and other forums for help regarding C W D and U A E

but there never seems to be a tail to their tales.

 

 

It is extremely frustrating to anyone in your position as there are conflicting reports about many issues

such as jurisdiction and it's very hard to find completed case studies.

 

You would be helping many others if you were to keep us abreast of developments and the outcome.

 

C W D's letters are absolute crackers.

 

legal500.com provides a pretty good guide to solicitors' performance / reputation over a range of specialities

but I'm not sure if it includes international personal debt, which is a small niche field.

[nixkix66]

Wrote to CWD in late July asking for copies of the application etc.

 

 

To date I have received no response at all.

 

 

Only comment they made was that they are acting on behalf of the Dubai bank and have not been assigned the debt

[layercake1]

Hi Nix - Can I ask you to paste your copy of agreement template letter for CWD?

 

I need to send one too urgently.....thank you :0

[unclebulgaria67]

Hi Nix - Can I ask you to paste your copy of agreement template letter for CWD?

 

I need to send one too urgently.....thank you :0

 

A letter asking for information will not be seen as admitting to a debt. It only needs to be simple. e.g Please arrange to supply me with a copy of any agreement that you believe existd between myself and x bank. Also please supply a copy of the full terms and conditions that relate to the account and copies of all statements of account to evidence that any debt exists.

[layercake1]

Thanks UB.....

[citizenB]

All of the posts in connection with layercake's situation have been moved to his own thread which is

 

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