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Name and Shame, just because they are councillors, they are no different to anyone else, hope the bailiffs call on them, well sauce for the goose.....

 

If you search online you will find them. There were several on cornwall council with unpaid LO's.

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In their dreams. The UN has already slammed them and the International Criminal Court has made threatening noises. They say before the Gods destroy you, they make you go mad. Need I say more?

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Whichever party wins the election I would bet money that they would not touch the dreaded Universal Credit or any other of the 'benefit schemes'. Other parties may well give sound bites about changes in their blurb to electors but whether they actually INTRODUCE the changes is a wholly different matter altogether.

Don't bet on the current political system remaining as it is; it is dying on its feet and, I suspect, not much longer for this world. I think it more likely there will be another hung parliament, but with no group having sufficient seats to form a government, let alone a coalition government. This is likely to be followed by another election shortly afterwards, but I think it will be found that the Unholy Trinity we currently have won't survive and a truly democratic parliament, made up of independents, Greens, etc., will take the place of the current Westminster pantomime that masquerades as democracy.

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Name and Shame, just because they are councillors, they are no different to anyone else, hope the bailiffs call on them, well sauce for the goose.....

 

Actually, BN, a lot of elected councillors take the view that if civil enforcement is used to collect unpaid CT/NNDR/PCNs it should be done responsibly. When I told one of my ward councillors what Equita and Ross & Roberts were really like, inviting him to view threads on CAG and the other site where I post, he was shocked and so were a number of other councillors.

 

A lot of the problems that come onto forums, like CAG, relating to use of civil enforcement for collection of CT/NNDR/PCNs, are down to local government officers, not the elected councillors themselves. Yes, councillors do need to scrutinise what local government officers do a lot more, but I am of the view that where a debtor is being sung the "Speak to the Bailiff" song by local government officers, involving councillors is important as if the proverbial hits the air conditioning, it is the councillors who come out smelling of manure.

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Actually, BN, a lot of elected councillors take the view that if civil enforcement is used to collect unpaid CT/NNDR/PCNs it should be done responsibly. When I told one of my ward councillors what Equita and Ross & Roberts were really like, inviting him to view threads on CAG and the other site where I post, he was shocked and so were a number of other councillors.

 

A lot of the problems that come onto forums, like CAG, relating to use of civil enforcement for collection of CT/NNDR/PCNs, are down to local government officers, not the elected councillors themselves. Yes, councillors do need to scrutinise what local government officers do a lot more, but I am of the view that where a debtor is being sung the "Speak to the Bailiff" song by local government officers, involving councillors is important as if the proverbial hits the air conditioning, it is the councillors who come out smelling of manure.

 

Well yes it is the officials who are unsackable with the tasty pension.

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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Well yes it is the officials who are unsackable with the tasty pension.

 

They like to think they are, but I'm afraid the tide's turning and I can see a load of them being fired for Misconduct in Public Office.

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They like to think they are, but I'm afraid the tide's turning and I can see a load of them being fired for Misconduct in Public Office.

Shame they went about sacking the obnoxious Shoosmith, in an incorrect manner.

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Is Jamie Waller taking the p**s or something? You can't really mistake items that are designed for use by disabled persons. He really does need to get a grip on his goons or I can see his company losing contracts. The sort of behaviour described in the link Outlawla has kindly provided does not sit well with a lot of people and I would not be surprised if this results in existing contracts being reviewed, or contracts coming to an end not being renewed or tenders being rejected. The vast majority of people do not tolerate bullying and judges certainly do not tolerate bullying. Waller would do well to remember that and start kicking his goons' backsides a bit more or he runs the risk seeing his company losing money and the spectre of administration hanging over the company like the Sword of Damacles.

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But did they though?

AS far as she deserved the sack no, but unfortunately she was well protected by the legislation.

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Is Jamie Waller taking the p**s or something? You can't really mistake items that are designed for use by disabled persons. He really does need to get a grip on his goons or I can see his company losing contracts. The sort of behaviour described in the link Outlawla has kindly provided does not sit well with a lot of people and I would not be surprised if this results in existing contracts being reviewed, or contracts coming to an end not being renewed or tenders being rejected. The vast majority of people do not tolerate bullying and judges certainly do not tolerate bullying. Waller would do well to remember that and start kicking his goons' backsides a bit more or he runs the risk seeing his company losing money and the spectre of administration hanging over the company like the Sword of Damacles.

 

That is before any skeletons ragarding any connivance with MPS on CUBO rattle out of the cupboard. Wonder what special disability aids they took control of, powered wheelchair, hoist to get her into bed? The mind boggles at the sheer nastyness that is some councils and the likes of JBW It would be great if the list of seized goods was revealed..

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Thank you Outlawla for posting a ink to this story. I am sending a copy of this article over to the Ministry of Justice right now.....there is the 'little matter' as to how this warrant could have ever been allowed to have been 'resealed'......

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It's confirmed a lottery in Cannock Chase Council /Jacob's case.

 

Whoever's name gets pulled out the hat takes the rap it seems......Family of 'wrong' Darren Smith wins fight against 'bully' bailiffs over parking fine demand

 

Shows that the system is borked from beginning to end. I don't doubt that Jacobs would have seized and sold the motorbike belonging to the innocent. In fact there is still a chance they will, as this is Jacobs being dealt with. The search agent has obviously been very slack, so I recon they didn't use one they just Googled Darren Smith, and picked a person with that name in the approximate area DVLA said he lived. Eenie meenie miniedmo, pick a Darren and off we go.

 

They should sue the lot of 'em.

 

Yes TT a resealed warrant, what is going on? Ah yes they make it up as they go along.

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Serves him right for being called Smith !!!!

 

In the modern age where we are ruled by computer databases, if you have a common name, then I expect that this type of situation will happen more often. This case is probably one of hundreds that happen every week. In most cases they are probably easily resolved, but bailiffs and councils don't often show commonsense. All they see is a potential source of income and someone who they probably think is lying to them to avoid payment.

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bailiffs - councils - commonsense.. hmmm.. rather think at least 2 of these dont go with the 3rd !

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bailiffs - councils - commonsense.. hmmm.. rather think at least 2 of these dont go with the 3rd !

 

I bet the source these people use is 192.com and a map. Oh look a D Smith living within 20 miles of the registered keeper address, so it must be them. I quick look at 192 and it shows atleast half a dozen people in the Redruth area with the same name as the person in the article.

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It seems to me that we need to get the Information Commissioner to raud Jacobs or whatever it is they do, as in that article.they appear to be admitting to using an illegal database to trace people. I hope Darren Smith is going to sue the parties involved.

 

He has been subjected to frightening letters and been accused of doing something he had not, and this entire action was down to what imho could very well be malfeasence in public office, and needs to be dealt with by the police

 

You cannot go setting bailiffs on someone when you know fuLl well it may not be the right person, and a simple check with the DVLA would have confirmed he was wrong person it sounds like.

 

This has got to be worth a grand or two for Darren, I bet Jacobs are desperately hoping it goes away quietly. I would co litigate against the Council and the Manager of the parking fines department.

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Good anyone confirm whether a particular impression I have gotten from the control of goods act is right or wrong?

 

It appears to me that iperhaps n an attempt to stop Debtors selling their assets to friends/family and that person then does an SD the new act now prohibts doing the above between a liability order being granted and yon bailiff turning up at the door!

 

The bit that has me thinking the above was some blurb about a debtors goods are the property of court even without a levy being made, and attempting to dispose of your goods even before bailiff arrives is thus a criminal offence, theft at the very least.

 

 

Of course iit makes no real difference to anyone. An SD does not usually mention the dates the leviable contents of a debtors house was bought only the date the new owner was forced to get an sd to protect their goods fro$ bailiffs ;)

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Good anyone confirm whether a particular impression I have gotten from the control of goods act is right or wrong?

 

It appears to me that iperhaps n an attempt to stop Debtors selling their assets to friends/family and that person then does an SD the new act now prohibts doing the above between a liability order being granted and yon bailiff turning up at the door!

 

The bit that has me thinking the above was some blurb about a debtors goods are the property of court even without a levy being made, and attempting to dispose of your goods even before bailiff arrives is thus a criminal offence, theft at the very least.

 

 

Of course iit makes no real difference to anyone. An SD does not usually mention the dates the leviable contents of a debtors house was bought only the date the new owner was forced to get an sd to protect their goods fro$ bailiffs ;)

 

You can do what you want with your goods, if an EA has not taken control over goods. They can't just look through a window of a house, take control over all goods in a house and post relevant notice through the door. That would not be taking control of goods. I think they would have to be able to physically touch the items, make an assessment of value and to list items. They would also have to hold reasonable belief that they were the property of the debtor.

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I bet if the government did a review of all assets around the country which could be sold off, they would find billions. But once you sell it off, at some point you will run out of assets to sell. I would be in favour of regional government replacing council authorities, which could save money. But the last time they had a local referendum in the North East people voted against because they thought it would just create another load of politicians. By joining up council authorities into regional government, it means you can cut down on having all the various offices and can probably reduce staff numbers.

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Tomtubby there is another story on Govtoday which is if true, out of order. Eric Pickles is saying that some Councils have tucked away large sums into their reserve accounts in the past few years while at the same time pleading poverty and cutting back on front line services. Whether it is Labour controlled Councils stashing away money [apparently sums of up to £20 million are being held in reserve] at the same time blaming the Tories for not increasing Council payments or if it is Councils across the board doing it I

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