Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • thread tidied. new thread for the court claim is here  
    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Help with Next deafult needed


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 3809 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi everyone am new to this forum so please bare with me!

 

Long story short,

 

I am on a DMP after not handling credit well at all and spending more than I could afford..

. I had a lightbulb moment 18 months ago and now have 18 months roughly left on it...

 

I have checked my credit files and noticed that 4 creditors have issued defaults,

1 of which I have had removed as they did not issue default notice as it was all online based..

. I am waiting for copies of the other 3 DN but one has written back with this:

 

 

 

11 December 2013

 

Our Ref:

 

Dear

Thank you for taking the time to contact us and I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

 

I am sorry to hear you don't remember receiving a default notice, sent to you in June 2012

This must have been worrying when you obtained your credit report.

 

I can understand why you've asked for a copy, for your records.

 

The original Default Notice was sent to you on 14 June 2012 and we're not obliged to keep a photocopy of it,

or send the document by recorded delivery.

But I have attached a copy of what would have been sent, which I hope you'll find helpful.

 

I need to let you know that even if we had not sent you a Default Notice (which we have),

we would still be entitled to record arrears and defaults on your credit files.

This is because the Data Protection Notice is included in our Terms and Conditions,

which you accepted when you placed orders with us.

 

"If we enter into a credit agreement with you, we will also supply details of your agreement with us to the credit reference agencies,

as well ongoing details of your account and how you manage it.

 

If you do not repay on time, or in full, we will advise the credit reference agencies who will record details of the debt.

 

All this information will be seen by other organisations carrying out later searches."

 

Now the thing they have sent attached nowhere states they are planning on issuing a default..

. It's a bulk standard letter saying I need to phone them to discuss arrears

and that if I don't they "may pass the account to a DCA, may register a default and I won't be able to use the account".

 

My question is is this adequate as a DN?

 

How should I respond to them?

 

The account was from next but currently with a DCA with a low balance I could clear in the next week

but want this removed as I kept all paperwork and no they didn't send what I feel is a proper DN...

 

Sorry about the long post,

any help would be appreciated as we are looking to buy a bigger house in the next 3 years and this obviously impacts on my credit!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Which creditor? Can you give us some background?

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

It was with next online directory, when I started the DMP it was passed to a DCA with a balance of just over £100... I only had the account running about 6 months before I started the DMP... I kept all correspondence and have this letter but no DN... Sorry I'm new so don't really no what info would be useful!

Link to post
Share on other sites

I really hope the DMP is not a fee paying one

and that you have sent a CCa request to all those being paid through it?

 

as for the next catalogue default.

 

all they have to do is prove that a DN 'was sent'

 

that's all

 

they appear to be able to do that.

 

who's the debt with now please?

 

whats the name against the account on the CRa file?

 

and whom are you paying?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

The DMP is a free one through stepchange formerly CCCS, I however haven't sent a CCA request to any of them? Without sounding stupid what is the purpose of this as I know I owe the money to the creditors so am happy paying what I owe...?

 

My credit file still shows up as next PLC rather than the DCA... I can't remember the DCA name will have a look through all my paperwork and find it

Link to post
Share on other sites

well if your cra file shows Next

 

then you can safely ignore the DCa

 

they can do nowt to you.

 

good you are with step change.

 

trouble with all DMP's free or fee is they never check IF the debt is legit

and whom you pay HOLD the correct paperwork.

that's the idea of the CCa request.

 

if the debts are still shown as being owned by the original creditors

and you are paying a DCA - you need to question why?

 

pay the OC's direct, then the dca's cant take their cut.

 

as for the 'default'

 

does the account show 1,2,3,4,5,6 red 6 or 8?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

if I sent a CCA request to all my creditors

I could stop paying them if they didn't hold the correct paperwork?

 

Wouldn't that still show on my credit file as the debt but the balance wouldn't reduce every month which would have a negative effect?

 

Even though my credit is shot to pieces anyway!

 

I use noddle for my credit report, it goes from a number 4 to DF?

 

I guess it's not going to be very likely to get the default removed then :(

 

I know it's my own stupid fault for not being able to handle credit was just hoping to be able to tidy it up a bit..

 

. Bit gutted that the default for just over £100 has such a big consequence!

 

Wish someone had explained just how bad a default was!!!

 

Thanks for all your help

 

so far will fire off some CCA requests as I know some of them were applied for online and so I didn't sign anything

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just another quick question as you've been so helpful...

 

One of the Creditors I contacted have emailed to say that as it is with a DCA they will hold the copy of the DN (even though it was the OC that issued it)

 

I have since emailed the DCA who say that's as the OC (studio catalogue) issued it they should hold the DN!

 

Am a bit confused now! Is the OC just trying to fob me off?! X

Link to post
Share on other sites

once a default has been issued

 

the WHOLE DEBT, will disappear from your cra file on the defaults 6th birthday.

 

might be an idea to list your debts

and whom you pay via CCCS

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

My debts are

 

Santander x2 credit cards

Nationwide credit card

Capital one credit card

Vanquis credit card

Studio catalogue

Next catalogue

ISME catalogue

Little woods catalogue

Jacamo

Wonga

 

I have defaults on the 2 santander cards, wonga and studio catalogue and next catalogue.

 

Studio have replied saying that as it is now with wescot DCA that they hold the DN even though it was studio that issued it.

 

Wonga have emailed saying they are under no obligation to supply me the day it was issued or a copy of the DN...

 

Next replied as above

 

Sanander have replied saying they are obtaining copies and will post them to me within 14 days...

 

Just a bit thrown by them saying they don't have to supply copies tbh I thought they did!

Link to post
Share on other sites

no one has to supply copies of DN's

 

under the ico guidelines

 

all they have to do is prove, by a note in say the comms log etc.

 

that one was sent.

 

seems like you might have some reclaiming to do here?

 

are all your debts showing on your cra file?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

plain sar as the click link

 

but make SURe you list any old addresses for that time if you have moved.

 

what are the defaults dates from the summary of each debt?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

dont bother trying to reclaim catalouge fees it doesnt work unless its over the 12 pounds threshold as they and the oft deem that to be fair and just.any of your debts that have been sold to a dca first thing to do is ask them for documentation of proof ie:deeds of assighnment,deeds of novation.if they have bought the debt they will have to provide you with copys of these documents which they wont have as they buy portfolios of debt with no paperwork for pennys.

Link to post
Share on other sites

sri thats not correct.

the OFT/FSA did not deem £12 fair , it just said they would not seek further enforcement under £12

 

it is STILL a PENALTY charge and tthus unlawful

 

and you wont see the deeds either

 

sounds a bit FoTl stuff to me.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Agree with you DX. Its amazing people think FOTL stuff actually works.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

im not a member of fotl.i have used this approach on 5 alledged debts and all were closed even when they provided a sighned ca.5 out of 5 is a 100% success rate.so yes it does work.obviously you have to be prepared to go to court but once you know how these dca operate you will loose your fear.they cannot provide a deed of assighment or deed of novation which is needed for any claim to be legal and lawfull.so when your requesting a ca also request those deeds and dont be fobbed of with any crap your not allowed to see them.wake up sheeples and stop paying these ****.i would appreciate if the 2posters who mention fotl could enlighten me why all 5 of my alledged debts were closed using this approach.considering sighned ca were supplied by the dca and they wernt sb

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...