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It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
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Getting a little bit nervous now. One week to go until my court date and still no contact from Barclays.

 

Thought I would list my timetable in the hope that it may help others.

 

Mar 06 - Sent 1st Letter requesting repayment of MY MONEY taken in charges.

Apr 06 - Received Letter from Barclays saying they were disappointed I wasn't happy etc...

Apr 06 - Sent LBA

Apr 06 - Received Offer for £475 as 'a goodwill gesture' - Claiming £1500

May 06 - Politely declined offer and said I was disappointed with there response and allowed them 14 days to pay Full Amount.

Jun 06 - Letter received saying sorry I didn't accept offer and they regret I feel I have to go to court.

Jun 06 - Used Moneyclaim to procedd through the Small Claims Court.

Jun 06 - Acknowledgement received and Barclays will defend the claim, signed by Keith Jeremiah.

Jul 06 - Received Defense and Allocation Questionnaire and informed that case has moved to my local Magistrates Court.

Jul 06 - Confirmation that case has been received by local court.

Jul 06 - Barclays return Allocation Questionnaire at last moment.

Aug 06 - Court Date set for 30th Oct 06

 

One week to go and heard nothing from Barclays, getting nervous.

 

Is this normal? ( The lateness for Barclays to contact, not the nervousness)

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I think I read another thread recently from a Barclays customer and they had to wait until about 5 days before the court date but then, surprise, surprise, Barclays paid out in full.

This seems to be their latest tactic and I suppose from their point of view, it makes sense, if they can make you back down by hanging on and on and letting you get nervous, they stand a chance of keeping at least some of your money.

I think it's probably best to prepare yourself as though you are going to court but remember, they'll give in before you do!

If they actually did go to court, and lose, the floodgates would be open and they really really don't want that.

I'm waiting for them to file a defence, they've got until 28th, so I'll be following your case with interest - Good luck!!

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Good luck. Barclays usually leave it to only a few days to go.

But as Vamp says you may have to go to court. Even if you do - you will be on your own.

 

Spotty

[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Statement request 4th May

Prelim Letter sent 24th May

LBA 7th June

Thanks but no thanks letter sent 22 June

MCOL 22nd June

Claim acknowledged 26 June

AQ sent 2nd August

17 Nov Court Date Set for 29 Jan 2007

Settled in full 12/12/06

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Well good luck i find it a great help to know others are in the same situation. My claim with barclays is going along the same lines as yours i paid my money through moneyclaim the 28 days are up and they have filed a defence so it is no longer being dealt with through moneyclaim. I am dead nervous but as someone said they will give in before us!!

Good luck again and i look forward to hearing that you ve got your money back ! (hopefully without going to court!)

charlie

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Good luck MightyMorph...I'm dreading the thought of stuff getting to Court, has anyone actually got to court and had Barclays turn up do you know? It seems to me that Barclays never turn up?

Barezi

 

12 Oct...Preliminary letter sent req £1320 + interest.

28 Oct...Sent LBA

10 Nov...Rejected £700 full/final settlement

23 Nov...filed MCOL

27 Nov...Barclays have until 13th Dec to respond.

12 Dec...Barclays acknowledge claim.

16 Jan...Case transferred to local court 16th is AQ deadline!

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Hi Mighty Morph, Just wondering if you could advice me. I am currently filling in my allocation questionaire and have got to section g (other information) Not too sure what to put and was wondering what you wrote in that section? Any help would be gratefully recieved.

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UPDATE

 

Court Date 30/10/06 @ 10.30am

 

26/10/06 Thursday - Telephone Call from Barclays at 6pm at home , stating a letter was in the post offering full repayment including court costs, did I accept.

I told them that when I had read the letter I would be in a position to answer.

 

27/10/06 Friday - Barclays faxed a copy of the letter to my works ( they are getting nervous). I read the letter and marked through the confidentially part, signed and faxed back. They called me to acknowledge receipt and stated that when I had cancelled the court date if I faxed a copy of the letter I gave to the court, they would release the money back to my account.

 

GOOD NEWS - Money in my account by 6pm on Friday 27/10/06

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stated that when I had cancelled the court date if I faxed a copy of the letter I gave to the court, they would release the money back to my account

 

They said the same to me. Slight hijack, but a warning to EVERYBODY: Do NOT tell the court the claim is withdrawn until you have the money in your account!!!

Fair dues to Barclays, they have never done it so far, BUT we have had other banks not paying after they said they would, and OP had withdrawn claim, and it's a huge hassle, as you can imagine.

 

Barclays have no right to ask for this before they have paid up. By all means, fax them an unsigned copy of the letter you'll give the Court, and make sure they know that the original will only go to the court once you have your money, not before!

 

Mightymorph, CONGRATULATIONS!!! :-D :-D :-D

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Congratulations from me too !!!

 

Spotty

[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Statement request 4th May

Prelim Letter sent 24th May

LBA 7th June

Thanks but no thanks letter sent 22 June

MCOL 22nd June

Claim acknowledged 26 June

AQ sent 2nd August

17 Nov Court Date Set for 29 Jan 2007

Settled in full 12/12/06

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