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    • statute barring in Scotland is 5yrs from last payment/use date or date of default Notice + 14 days, whichever is the later. dont confuse that with the 6yrs debts show on credit files (DN's 6th bday regardless to payment or not). they'd never get a claim raised by august in 99% of cases . as long all these debts were taken out whilst resident in scotland and you have not moved since taking them out but failed to inform the original creditor before the debt sale....... then stay radio silent until sb date is reached. then if you wish send our scottish sb letter. just remember unlike E&W in scotland debts are extinguished, dead , gone , parrot. once SB'd dx  
    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
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Just when I thought they'd got the hint,

 

I have today received a letter from Connaught saying they have passed my account onto their solicitors Judge & Priestley.

 

From my records this becomes statute barred at beginning of August,

 

really don't want them taking me to court so near to that date..

 

any ideas what I should do?

 

Quite confident that what they have sent me is not the correct t&cs

 

but may need to get a copy in order to cover myself...

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J&P

not seen then in court in years...

 

threat-o-grams to follow.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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don't forget conault are 1st credit are J&P

so all in all just another trick to make you panic

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no idea on the ipad

 

do it on a pc in the notifications tab

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no idea on the ipad

 

do it on a pc in the notifications tab

 

dx

switch to full version of site?? on ipad

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Just when I thought they'd got the hint,

 

I have today received a letter from Connaught saying they have passed my account onto their solicitors Judge & Priestley.

 

From my records this becomes statute barred at beginning of August,

 

really don't want them taking me to court so near to that date..

 

any ideas what I should do?

 

Quite confident that what they have sent me is not the correct t&cs

 

but may need to get a copy in order to cover myself...

 

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I will post when I get the letter from the "solicitors" so I can get an idea of how to respond..the one I received today from Connaught said they are disappointed I haven't responded to them despite their letters and telephone calls! They haven't called me they don't have my number and they only sent a couple of letters....

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I will post when I get the letter from the "solicitors" so I can get an idea of how to respond..the one I received today from Connaught said they are disappointed I haven't responded to them despite their letters and telephone calls! They haven't called me they don't have my number and they only sent a couple of letters....

 

 

Judge & Priestly of Bromley Kent, all though not actually part of 1st Credit have had a long association with them.

 

 

Dealing with them in the past and attempting to speak to a "a solicitor" was an impossible task,.

1st Credit at the time has an in house legal department head by a solicitor not registered with the SRA as "principal solicitor" and 1 paralegal who then passed on cases to J & P.

 

 

Then they disappeared of the scene until recently.

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Wish they would disappear of my scene :(

 

 

J & P used to love sending threatening letters but when challenged referred everything back to 1st Credit.

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I am obviously expecting some form of communication from judge and priestly. Should I respond or just ignore in the first instance?

 

 

Much will depend on the content of any letter from J&P in the past it was often on the line of " recommending court action to their client" often files passed back to 1st Cruds legal department (1 paralegal and an absentee " principal solicitor" !)

 

 

Certainly do not attempt to converse with J&P by phone I tried the a few times in the past when assisting others with cases assigned to J&P for "legal action".

 

 

You may get a letter listing what MAY happen IF they get a judgement.

 

 

All the usual we may apply of an attachment of earnings order.

We May instruct bailiffs etc.,

We May refer the matter back to our client for a doorstep visit.

 

 

All the major threats and then referred back for the last one.

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Ok..would now be a good time to do a SAR to the original creditor? Would that buy me time or would that admit liability? Just thinking as it's only a couple,of months until it's SB.

Yes certainly send a SAR, if J&P make contact send a reply on the lines of:

 

 

I do not acknowledge any debt to your client. I have made a Subject Access Request to the Original Creditor to retrieve all data relating to the alleged debt, no further communication will be entered into until the data is received.

 

 

At the same time send CCA request to J&P.

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I have already done a cca request and received about 3 different lots of t&c's..I'm pretty confident they are not correct and more alone the lines of a recon..so i guess it's pointless sending off another one,min was just going to tell them that my request remains outstanding because what they have sent is not correct..would that be correct?

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I have already done a cca request and received about 3 different lots of t&c's..I'm pretty confident they are not correct and more alone the lines of a recon..so i guess it's pointless sending off another one,min was just going to tell them that my request remains outstanding because what they have sent is not correct..would that be correct?

These "reconstituted" agreements must consist of:

 

 

Your name and address at the inception of the agreement.

The Creditors name and address at inception of the agreement.

True copies of the Ts & Cs at inception of the agreement

" " " " at closure of the agreement.

Any variations/amendments made during the life of the agreement.

Any other document mentioned in the Ts & Cs ( many card issuers refer to a "booklet" enclosed with the card at issue).

A current statement of the account.

 

 

All must be included and must have the original "financial" information.

 

 

If you believe that the "recons" are not compliant yes tell 1st Crud that you reject them non compliant.

 

 

If the card / agreement was prior to April 2007 they will need the actual original signed agreement to attempt to get and enforce a judgement.

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It was definitely prior to 2007. If they had the original I guess they would have sent it 😉

 

And I have told 1st credit on numerous occasions that it's non compliant but they just ignore this fact! Have done SAR will send off later..might just give me enough time to get to the SB date, well that and the non compliant agreement, no copy of original and a couple of other things which I haven't mentioned yet in case of prying eyes!

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It was definitely prior to 2007. If they had the original I guess they would have sent it 😉

 

And I have told 1st credit on numerous occasions that it's non compliant but they just ignore this fact! Have done SAR will send off later..might just give me enough time to get to the SB date, well that and the non compliant agreement, no copy of original and a couple of other things which I haven't mentioned yet in case of prying eyes!

Ok. I guess it's wait & see what J&P come up with and the results of the SAR.

 

 

If/when J&P write, you could mention the non compliant " recons".

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