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    • thread tidied. new thread for the court claim is here  
    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
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Hi Mckenzie Hall have taken over one of the PDL debts. After many threats I wrote to them about a reduced settlement final offer. They came back and we agreed on 50%.

 

However, I need it in writing to cover all bases. I don't want to pay them and then they come back and say it wasn't final settlement.

 

Can anyone help me phrase what needs to be said on the letter please , or the document that I sign?

 

so far all they say is one off payment

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I don't think what I have currently in writing covers everything off

 

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Dear

Thank you for your email.

CONFIRMATION OF ARRANGEMENT

£687.00 one off payment

Payment date 31/03/2013

Payment method Bank Transfer

Sort Code:

Account Number:

Always quote Reference:

Many Thanks

From:

Thanks.

 

I will need a letter or email stating that this will be full and final settlement of the account and also your bank account no to pay it into.

 

thank you

 

 

From:

Subject: RE: Debt account

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:40:23 +0000

Dear

Thank you for your email.

Please be advised that the settlement available is at 50% £687.00.

This offer will be available until 31/03/2013.

Many Thanks

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If they are agreeing on a discount, then theres something wrong with the debt. You need to find out what. The only amount you should be paying or negotiate on is the initial loan, initial contracted interest and a default fee, minus what you have already paid.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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YEs that is what I'm doing. I don't know if there is anything wrong with the debt but I got a letter before action so would like to settle for this amount which is the correct amount of principal loan.

 

I just need to know how it can be out in writing so that it is finally a full settlement and not just a payment and they ask for more later on.

 

I just need the right terminology please.

 

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They are just scaring you. Can you post up the letter before action? Im not saying that the settlement isnt genuine, just you are dealing with a very well known DCA who uses threats and harassment to get money they are not entitled to.

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The letter was from a sols not mckenzie hall.

 

I don't think it's that unusual for them to settle considering they bought the debt for a lot less than the settlement offer.

 

what I really need is the right words to make sure that it is concrete when payment is made.

 

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Doesnt matter if its from a solicitor. Most DCA's use solicitors for hire, or their own inhouse one. Can you tell us which sol it was?

 

If we can determine if it is genuine, then by all means its worth paying, but paying them blindly simply because a silly solicitor tells you to....

 

 

If you still want to pay them without checking the validity, then we can help you get the wording right. I just dont want to see you pay simply because they are threatening you if you dont.

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I'm not paying them because a sols is asking. I have been given a lump sum by a family member to pay off all my debts. I have written to all my debtors telling them of my situation, I was unemployed for 7 months and have only recently gained employment, I owe x amount in total, I have been given x amount by a family member to settle all my debts in full will you accept 40%. They have written back with 50%.

 

I owe the money so want to settle the debt as soon as possible with this opportunity.

 

To ensure that the offer is genuine, I need the correct wording so that when I make the payment it is actually for the full amount.

 

To date I do not think that the wording is 100% correct (see above), hence why I need something in writing signed by both parties to ensure that I am actually settling my debts in full and not just making part payments

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Well, you need to demand that the offer is only valid, if they remove any and all entries from your credit file, mark the account as settled, and they do not pass on or sell on any of the remaining balance. You MUST get confirmation of this in writing, and do not send a single penny unless they agree to it.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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Right this is what they have sent me. It doesn't include as I asked for any thing for amending my credit reference.

 

Would appreciate it if someone could check it out and ensure that it is biniding as a full and final settlement

 

Reference: ***

Client Ref: *****

Pursuers: Mackenzie Hall Debt Purchase Ltd

Original Creditor: Quick Quid

Principal Sum: £ 1,374.00

23/03/13

REDUCED SETTLEMENT OFFER

 

We can confirm that our client will accept £687.00 as a full and final settlement with regards to the above debt. If payment is not received by noon on the last working day of this month, then this settlement figure may be revoked and no such offer will be made again.

 

Our client would prefer an amicable settlement, however, should the settlement amount not be paid by the specified date, there could be a potential for further action.

 

Payment method:

 

We accept payments by Credit and Debit card by phone or On line at www.mackenziehall.co.uk . Alternatively you can pay Cash into our bank account.

 

The details are as follows;

 

****

Account number: ***

Sort Code:***

Bank Reference: ***

 

Should you have any questions, please telephone our offices on telephone number 01563 556 544.

Important: If you are not the named person above please contact us quoting Address ID: ****** to stop any further communication.

 

Yours sincerely

********** Mackenzie Hall Limited

Always Quote Reference *******on all communications.

(Telephone calls may be recorded)

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Thats sounds very suspicious im im honest. There is no mention that the settlement will pay the debt fully, and the remainder wont be passed on or sold to a third party. They also mention that they are acting on behalf of their client, and their client agreed to a discount. Why didnt their client contact you direct and say they will accept a settlement sum?

 

It might just be me being wary, but this letter smells funny.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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There shouldnt be a need to push. It should be the basis of the letter.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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Hi guys,

 

Sorry to highjack this thread, but I need some help, If I took out a loan with wonga for £440 and I have paid back £380.51 does this mean that I only owe wonga a further £59.49? Because at the moment even after asking for a repayment plan they have refused to stop all interest on my account, so if I send them a final settlement letter stating I will pay the remainder of the initial loan, then they have no right to pursue the case any further?

 

Please help really stressing out with all of these, as they are not very helpful at all.

 

P.S. Accounding to wonga I still owe the £354 even though I have paid that amount as I did a few rollovers.

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