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    • Thank you for posting up the required details and well done for apparently not revealing the identity of the driver. I am assuming you are the keeper? The depth of ignorance of the parking companies is absolutely amazing. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 is the law relating to private parking and allows those rogues to be able to transfer the charge from the driver [whose name they do not know] to the keeper after 28 days . This is dependent on them complying with the Act. So many of the don't and Alliance is no different. It would help if we could see what you appeal was and to post the back of the PCN as it is lacking so much of the wording necessary to make it compliant so that in your case only the driver is liable to pay the charge. And of course just entering the ANPR arrival times means that they have failed to specify the parking time which is a requirement..  Because the car park was so busy you had to drive around for quite a while before finally finding a place to park which is when the parking period may  actually begin. The poor dears at Alliance have not grasped that particular part of the legislation as yet. To be fair the Act has only been in place for 12 years so one must make allowances for their stupidity . We shouldn't really mock them- but it is fun. You weren't to know but the chances of winning an appeal against Alliance and the IPC is around 5%-and that is high for them. If they allow you to cancel they lose the chance of making money and they would have had a field day when you were there with so many people being caught overstaying because of the chaos in trying to find a parking space then trying to pay.  Your snotty letter could go something like this- Dear Cretins, Yes I mean you Alliance. After 12 years one would have thought that even you could produce a compliant PCN. Did you really think I would pay you a penny extra considering the time I wasted trying  to pay with  long queues at the parking machine, then trying to get a signal to call Just Park. On top of that you then had the cheek to ask for an additional £70 for what dubious unspecified pleasure? You must have made a killing that day charging all those motorists for overstaying because the queues to pay were do long and even walking to pay from the over flow parking fields takes time. And yes I did take photos of the non existent signs in the fields so please don't give me the usual rubbish about your signs being clearly visible. Oh yes that £70. Please tell me and the Court whether that charge included VAT and if it did, why am I being charged to pay your vat? I am sure the Judge would look carefully at that as well as the Inland Revenue. The truth is you had no reasonable cause to ask the DVLA for my data given the chaos at your car park and I believe that you therefore breached my GDPR...................... I expect others will give their views as well.          
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    • https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/new-private-parking-code-to-launch-in-the-uk-later-this-year/ The newly created gov petition 'Immediately Reintroduce Private Parking Code of Practice' is from Stanley Luckhurst, the 85-year-old old Excel Parking took to court. Excel lost the case and the pensioner's been campaigning for regulation of PPCs since this unpleasant experience. https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/24085471.gerrards-cross-pensioner-takes-nightmarish-private-parking/ I would urge anyone on this forum who supports the petition statement "We believe the private parking industry is trending toward anarchy and must be brought to order by re-launching the Government Code immediately" to sign and share it. 168 signings at 4pm today https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/660922 If the gov new parking code is not launched before parliament dissolves (for the general election) then the legislation is at great risk of being shelved. And we'll be stuck with ATAs new joint code which does not address motorists issues such as a cap on parking charges, debt recovery or an independent appeal process.  https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/wash-up/
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hi, i am hoping someone can help me out of this stupid situation i have got myself into.

 

in a nutshell -- 3rd party hit me on a rounabout. my right of way and i was indicating to turn off. he came on from the left and tried to cut across and he hit the side of my door.

i came away with a rather large dent in my door and the other driver had my paint on his bumper.

we swapped names, numbers and he said he would call me that night. didnt hear anything so notified the insurers the next day. he had already called them claiming i wasn't indicating, my fault and he has a third party witness!!!! shocked as for 20 minutes we were there there were no witnesses.

 

anyway, took my car to the garage to get a quote, compelted insurance forms and sent it off thinking nothing of it and thta it will get sorted.

 

just got a letter asking why i had not notified them of my tinted windows (mods) and if i had told them in the beginning, they never would have insured me! when i bought the car couple of years ago the windows were already done and i assumed it was factory fitted as that was what i was told.

 

now i dont know what to do/what to write back/where to go from here.

i realise legally they are within there rights as htey are saying car is modified and i didnt tell them and is against their policy to insure these cars (they wont cover any mods!), but i dont know what i am supposed to do now, i am really upset with myself as i should have realised but now i am stuck.

would really help any advice to where to go now?

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The important thing here is that the accident was caused by any lack of visibility.

 

Write back to them in a business like way and point out to them that, firstly, the car is exactly as it was supplied to you and secondly that you deny that you were at fault but in any event that the evidence shows clearly that any lack of visibility caused by tinted windows - which you deny - was not a contributing factor and therefore you expect them to cover the accident of else you will take them to the county court.

Tell them that you accept that if they consider that the vehicle is modified that they may want to cancel the contract for the future or review the premium - but this accident was not affected by the tinted windows and so the level of risk in that regards remains the same.

tell them that you will be presenting this argument to the county court if they do not reconsider their position within 14 days.

 

Only make this threat if you intend to carry it out.

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bankfodder -thanks for the advice, that is so helpful. i didnt think i would have a leg to stand on with them as they are 'in charge'.

will i need to prove the visibility through the windows? they are not crazy dark windows, just enough to keep the sun out (in the back) and the fronts are a slight shade darker then the windscreen (not tinted).

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I don't think it's checked on the MOT. If it is, I can see it being like the ruling in the MOT that says Magic Trees and phone holders aren't to be in place. My MOT man says that he'll "remove" them for the purpose of the test... But I have never seen it.

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