Vinci Car Park - Roxburgh - Graham White

[Hayley vc]

i am very worried I took advice from a number of forums including this one about Roxburge, Vinci Car park Graham White etc and ignored all the letters...I have now received a County Court claim for £456, I have no idea what to do please help

[Hayley vc]

I am begining to think that these forum posters are all part of the [problem] letting people think that companies like graham white roxburge etc are not serious about thier intentions

 

..you think your ok then they take you to court for crazy amounts.

 

..something is not right about any of this.

 

..i am a student and out of my mind with worry about all this i have only a few days to get an answer back to the court

and have no idea what to do i am in tears as i write this

 

please please help me

[Tony P]

Is the claim form stamped by a Court?

 

Or are they playing games trying to frighten you more by just using filled in blank forms?

 

Either way, you will get the right advice here.

Edited September 22, 2012 by Tony P

[ims21]

Various posts merged into a new thread for you Hayley and thread tidied.

 

Please post up the Particulars of Claim verbatim but no personal identifiers should be included

 

Thanks

[Hayley vc]

thankyou for replying

 

the claim has come from northampton ccbc county court and has a claim number and stamp

 

the claimant is vinci park carpark services u oak house reeds crescent watford

and address for sending documents and payments is graham white solicitors manor house lavender park road west byfleet kt14 6nd

 

i am shown as the defendant and my home address is shown

not my uni home address t

 

here are all sorts of documents admissions and things i dont understand

 

the issue date is 12 sept 2012 i am so worried and cant concentrate on what to do it is making me shake

[Hayley vc]

The amount is £376 court fees £30 solicitiors fees £50 Toatal £456 i have no help with my uni fees and have a student loan to complete my uni studies

[havinastella]

Type out the Particulars of Claim exactly as they appear on the papers.

 

And calm down, after they withdraw, it'll pay for a nice little holiday for you. Stop being worried and make sure you understand what people will be helping you to do in the next few days.

[Tony P]

Hayley. Relax. Nothing is going to happen straight away on a Saturday evening.

But we must move this on.

 

First thing - this presumably relates to a private car park.Yes?

That being so can the Moderators move the thread to Private Land Parking in the Motoring Forums.

 

We can pick it up again from there.

 

But for now Hayley - take it easy!

[havinastella]

Hayley. Relax. Nothing is going to happen straight away on a Saturday evening.

But we must move this on.

 

First thing - this presumably relates to a private car park.Yes?

That being so can the Moderators move the thread to Private Land Parking in the Motoring Forums.

 

We can pick it up again from there.

 

But for now Hayley - take it easy!

 

Court papers issued, It stays in legal Tony

[Hayley vc]

Thank you so much for your help,

 

The claimants claim against the defendant is for multiple breaches of contract in respect of notices issued to vehicle xxxx on the following dates,

15/11/11,

18/11/11,

28/10/11 at Cyncoed.

 

The terms and conditions to which the defendant agreed to be bound by using the site were clearly defined in prominent places throughout the site.

The claimants claim is inclusive of recovery costs as per the terms and conditions of the site notice of which was given to the defendant by way of three separate parking charge notices.

And the claimant claims £376.00.

 

The claimant also claims interest thereon pursuant to S.69 County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% per annum calculated with a daily rate of 0.08 to the date here of amounting to 24.88.

 

The Claimant is signed by Michael Sobell (Claimants Solicitor)

[Hayley vc]

yes the car park was at my uni cardiff uwic

and i was told not to worry about paying the tickets by my friends

who told me not to pay them because everybody gets them

and nobody pays them

 

i was new to all this because i hhad only just passed my test and stupidly took thier advice

then i started getting letters and again spoke to my friends

who said dont take any notice and also told me to look at the forums

[dx100uk]

ah that lot.Michael Sobell

 

just type is Michael Sobell in our search top right.

 

dont worry

 

easily batted off

 

the troops will be here soon.

 

dx

[Hayley vc]

I just want to thank you again for replying...i feel a little better knowing that people are helping me x

[Jamberson]

Despite what was said above, I do think you should post something in the motoring/parking section. These situations arise all the time there.

 

The basis of your defence would be that the contractual terms are invalid as they amount to the imposition of a penalty against you. Basically, if you had breached a contract, they could sue you for their losses (pennies) but cannot impose their own fines on you. Think about it - what is to stop them penalising someone to the tune of £100,000? Only the fact that it's not legal to do so.

 

Therefore you can defend on the basis that the contract is not valid and they will know this, and their costs are therefore not your problem!

[Hayley vc]

Thankyou i have looked at the paperwork sent by the court and I am unsure how to do this. The 14 days are up on the 26th of september which is wednesday can someone help with this please?

[Hayley vc]

I took advice from people posting information on this forum about a parking ticket issue i had

and the involvelment of companies named Roxborough and graham white solicitors

which has caused me to be taken to court tomorrow the 26th september..

 

.If anyone is reading this and has had this problem

DO NOT IGNORE THE LETTERS like i did,

as was suggested by people posting on this forum.

..it will get you into deeper trouble.

 

the promises made by people to help me did not happen.

 

..these people posting on the forum are faceless internet trolls leading you up the wrong road..

 

. probably the same creeps who work for those companies.

 

My problem has now been sorted out by my dad who i didnt want to worry about this matter.

 

I wish these people would understand that they are playing with peoples lives

 

i came near to breaking down because of the problems all this has caused

 

...but does anyone really care...no,

 

only those who really love and care for you.

[dx100uk]

why did you only come here 4 days before your court case?

 

you must have known about this case for weeks?

 

and what did your dad do to sort it then?

 

dx

[havinastella]

I took advice from people posting information on this forum about a parking ticket issue i had

and the involvelment of companies named Roxborough and graham white solicitors

which has caused me to be taken to court tomorrow the 26th september..

 

.If anyone is reading this and has had this problem

DO NOT IGNORE THE LETTERS like i did,

as was suggested by people posting on this forum.

..it will get you into deeper trouble.

 

the promises made by people to help me did not happen.

 

..these people posting on the forum are faceless internet trolls leading you up the wrong road..

 

. probably the same creeps who work for those companies.

 

My problem has now been sorted out by my dad who i didnt want to worry about this matter.

 

I wish these people would understand that they are playing with peoples lives

 

i came near to breaking down because of the problems all this has caused

 

...but does anyone really care...no,

 

only those who really love and care for you.

 

All advise is to ignore everything except COURT PAPERS.

 

You turn up get advise to ignore and you ignore it.

 

You then received Court papers and helpful posts telling you to Acknowledge the claim.

 

You then say you are in Court in 4 days. Over 250,000 members and nearly 1,000,000 people a month use this site and you suggest that we all work for the parking companies and are all internet trolls, BECAUSE you are too stupid to defend an easy case.

[Hayley vc]

I am a uni student who only came home to pick up my mail recently

..then i found the letter from the court

 

i panicked and did not know what to do

my dad is uneployed because of ill health i did not want to worry him any more than he is already.

 

..i posted on this forum because this is where i originally saw the information about disregarding the original letters from graham white and hoped that i would get some help.

 

..i was hopeful based on the the replys that i received ( including one one from yourself) that someone could help me .

 

...my dad has borrowed some money to pay the fine which was £456

i know this has created a huge problem for him and we will have to deal with it as a family.

 

..i have learnt a lot about people by all this, bad advice is cheap but positive action is priceless

[Hayley vc]

All advise is to ignore everything except COURT PAPERS.

 

You turn up get advise to ignore and you ignore it.

 

You then received Court papers and helpful posts telling you to Acknowledge the claim.

 

You then say you are in Court in 4 days. Over 250,000 members and nearly 1,000,000 people a month use this site and you suggest that we all work for the parking companies and are all internet trolls, BECAUSE you are too stupid to defend an easy case.

 

Well why didnt anyone take the time to help me.

..i am 19 years old and have never had to do anything like this before.

.all i wanted was someone to guide me through the paperwork.

..Also if i had not ignored the letters like this forumj suggested i would not have received the COURT PAPERS

[Tony P]

and what did your dad do to sort it then?

Probably sent a totally unnecessary cheque rather than understand the Law of Contract and stand up to those who abuse it !

 

....... unless this is a more inventive plant than usual.

[dx100uk]

sorry but we helped you as we do everyone.

court date.

 

now can you please post up your CCJ judgement please

 

so WE can help others that get one...yes?

 

 

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

or

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

.

'

BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all figures and dates.

.

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

.

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

.

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

.

.

dx

[Hayley vc]

I have just gone back over all the threads to make sure i did not miss anything...I asked if anyone could help me with the paperwork from your 250,000 members...i did not get a reply...Dealing with things like this might be easy for a 44 year old...and yes i might be a naive stupid 19year old but i am learning very quickly how people can be so horrible

[havinastella]

If you only just received the papers, you could always apply for a set aside.

 

Sorry If my previous post was a bit blunt, but this is a self help site and you need to do all the work that is advised.

[havinastella]

Also, This is the only thread that you have started under your user name.

 

Where was your old thread so I check what advise was given?