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    • You can counter a Judges's question on why you didn't respond by pointing out that any company that charges you with stopping at a zebra crossing is likely to be of a criminal mentality and so unlikely to cancel the PCN plus you didn't want to give away any knowledge you had at that time that could allow them to counteract your claim if it went to Court. There are many ways in which you can see off their stupid claim-you will see them in other threads  where our members have been caught by Met at other airports as well as Bristol.  Time and again they take motorists to Court for "NO Stopping" apparently completely forgetting that the have lost doing that because no stopping is prohibitory and cannot form a contract. Yet they keep on issuing PCNs because so many people just pay up . Crazy . You can see what chuckleheads they are when you read their Claim form which is pursuing you as the driver or the keeper. they don't seem to understand that on airport land because of the Bye laws, the keeper is never liable.   
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    • luckily like this thread VCS/DCB(L) PCN spycar capture - PAPLOC Now claimform - no Stopping in Restricted Zone - Bristol Airport ***Claim Dismissed*** - Page 4 - Private Land Parking Enforcement - Consumer Action Group although no on the crossing, same applies to you so WS time. there are numerous threads here on pedestrian crossing claimforms by VCS at Bristol and at other airports so use our enhanced google searchbox and find them. really a bad idea to vanish for SIX months and not been have reading up here.....................  
    • Not at all.  The onus is on them to ensure that their invoice respects the provisions of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to establish keeper liability.  Which it can't as the area is covered by bye-laws. Spot on. Irrelevant as to whether you entered into a contract with VCS to pay them £100 if you didn't obey what was written on their silly signs. Who cares?  What about their ridiculous generic Particulars of Claim where they deliberately mix up driver and keeper. And where do they mention this?  You haven't shown us anything. Of course you have to prepare a Witness Statement and you'd better get on with it. This is the problem here - you've disappeared for months & months, haven't kept us updated and presumably haven't read other VCS threads.  That needs to change - now. Otherwise you will lose - simple as that. For a start - please upload the court order which fixes the hearing date plus plus where "VCS mentioned my initial defence was generic and clearly copied from the internet".  We're not mind readers.
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Good luck with your compensation.

To give you an idea of how to work out a reasonable claim take a look at this case in Scotland. Part of which was to do with the claimant having his credit trashed by his creditor by

having posted negative comments with the CRAs. Initially he got about £250,000 I think. But then he appealed to redress something else, and from what I understand, he may

have lost part of his claim. you can read it here-

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/scot/cases/ScotCS/2010/2010CSIH49.html&query=compensation+and+for+and+breach+and+of+and+data+and+protection&method=boolean

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Well hi again Caggers it's been a while since I posted anything so I'll bring you up to speed. I took professional legal advice, and the advice from this board of course, and finally having had the advice that I would need to actually prove on a case by case basis what my actual substantiated losses were, I could end up with costs awarded against me but it was more likely that I might get a small award against them I might not get a costs order. Because I wasn't able to demonstrate a high probability of success I was unlikely to get public funding so the solicitor advised against an application at that time. Instead I was advised to refuse the £100.00 (goodwill) offer from crapquest and inform them that I was preparing a case against them and would issue an application in due course; I would give them 7 days to reconsider their offer of compensation and make it clear that the issue was one of 'compensation' and and not of goodwill gestures.

 

7 days came and went and I advise the nice lady on the craphone that i required an answer TODAY! I then interrupted (how rude of me) her explanation of how she had been trying to pin-down the director of legal all week because the manager couldn't deal with the matter himself........:-x "look madam! I don't care about who has to make a decision :-x as long as somebody does before four-o-clock this afternoon :mad2:, I am not going to call you back at 4 because I need to be at the court to file papers by 4:15":mad2: "Oh and I'll be wanting the decision in writing, and I ended the call.

 

At 2pm I had a telephone call from nice lady on the craphone who very politely offered that a cheque for £500.00 and a written apology with an undertaking that Crapquest would never contact me again on any matter whatsoever and would contact all of the CRAs to ensure that the CCJ had been removed; they would also ensure that their name and the purpose of their searches would be removed from the records. If I was agreeable the letter and cheque would be sent out by special delivery to be with me by 1pm the following day.:|

 

Hardly a major victory, but a victory nonetheless. Obviously their legal team knew that I would have to show the court proper and accurate figures for any claimed financial loss, and proper irrefutabubble written evidence for any libel claim before a judge would award any more and possibly less than about £1000 as a token compensation. Costs could go either way depending on the judge's mood, which pretty much summed up what my solicitor had told me

 

Well it was almost Xmas and I was skint as per :sad: I knew that I had no such actual evidence and courts and appeals could take forever, besides, 500 quid was better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick :wink:. so I accepted. And the next day I was £500 better off with a nice letter telling me how very sorry they were for any inconvenience they had caused and the undertakings as outlined above. I had again made it clear that no FFS statement would be forthcoming from me but if they leave me alone I'll leave them alone :smile: . I still don't know if that ever was my debt in the first place, but I know for certain now that I have no debt that is not statute barred.

 

To finish the story, I did of course send off letters of complaint to the usual bodies which having responded with the usual unhelpful letters are probably doing the usual naffall in the background. But one more complaint is one more micromacromillimetre hammer tap for the cause.

 

Many thanks to all that gave advice and support, it was much appreciated and I would advise all that need to use this forum to take note and weigh up the advice that you are given here, before panicking and giving in to the bullies that trade as debt collectors. If you KNOW that you DO owe the debt then you should be looking for advise on how to pay it, NOT how you can avoid paying it. :!: But if you know that it isn't your debt or are genuinely unsure as to whether or not you are the debtor, then this is the right place to be, amongst the right people to ask. Using the law with regard to statute barred debts is acceptable and again you are in the right place for advice on that. DON'T ever pay a debt collector because you are afraid not to ONLY pay what they can prove that they have the legal right to collect. :-D

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Hey well done you. Their letter of apology probably feels almost as good as the £500 [i did say almost!]

 

I guess you have checked that all derogatory has been removed from your files. Also, put their letter where they state they will never hassle you again somewhere safe just in case..............

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