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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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the family tree of Capita equita and Ross and Robbers might be worth a mention in your emails????

 

Most defintitely as the vested interests between Capita and it's two bailiff companies could be construed as a conflict of interest when dealing with a vulnerable debtor, or a dispute.

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I chose the Guardian because they are campaigny can anyone think of any others worth sending it to?

 

These journalists have all reported bailiff issues in connection with council contracts:

 

The Times :

[email protected]

 

 

The Sunday Times:

[email protected]

 

 

The Sunday Telegraph / Telegraph

[email protected] ?

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right not got screen prints but got the latitude and longitude just checking where they have been as it wasnt here

Can I sue for distress caused by putting information through someone elses door?

My views are based on experience I would always urge you to do some further research and if in doubt seek legal advice.

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my plan is to get a map of where they were send it back to the council and state that either they didnt post any of the documentation therefore its invalid or they posted through the wrong address causing me great embarrassment and distress but I need a hand finding the address with these coordinates

My views are based on experience I would always urge you to do some further research and if in doubt seek legal advice.

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right not got screen prints but got the latitude and longitude just checking where they have been as it wasnt here

Can I sue for distress caused by putting information through someone elses door?

 

If they did post letters of a sensitive nature through someone elses door, I should think this would be a breach of the Data Protection Act:

 

Have a look at this post for more detail.

 

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latitude and longitude map.

 

 

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Giving you longitude and latitude doesn't prove they visited even if they're correct coordinates. They could have just found the these from the net.

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Maybe a better way to determine your longitude and latitude

 

 

How do I look up latitude and longitude coordinates on Google Maps?

 

 

 

To look up the geographic coordinates (latitude and longitude) of a spot on the map, follow the steps below:

  1. Right-click on the desired spot on the map to bring up a menu with options.
  2. In the menu, select What’s here?.
  3. Click the green arrow to get the latitude and longitude coordinates.

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Even simpler, just type the coordinates into the search box in Google Maps.

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I think they are taking the p$ss ....it isn't rocket science to tell you the day date and time of the alleged visits, did you send them the acme bailff letter?

 

To:

Acme Bailiff Co

Bailiff House

 

Ref: Account No: 123456

 

Dear Sir

 

With reference to the above account, Can you please provide me with a breakdown of the charges.

 

This includes:

a - the time & date of any Bailiff action that incurred a Fee.

b - the reason for the fee.

c - the name(s) of the Bailiff(s) that attended on each occasion a Fee was charged.

d - the name(s) of the Court(s) the Bailiff(s) was/were Certificated at.

e - the date of the Certification.

 

This is not a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act S7 1998 so does not incur a fee of £10. You are obliged to provide this information.

 

I require this information within 14 days.

 

Yours faithfully

 

Ripped off customer"

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thanks outlawa and WD yep Hallowitch gave me that to send and it has gone over twice. I now need help drafting a letter that is the right side of arsey if at all possible.

points I want to make, I am asking again for screenshots showing the date and time of the visits, if they have been in the neighbourhood either they posted info through the wrong door or didnt bring it so I want the fees wiped if its the later and compensating for the distress if its the former and the council to take the debt back.

oh if this continues im going to start billing for my time.

 

Thank you all for your help!

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I am going to draft e,ails to all of the dailies tomorrow as well I am seriously hacked off

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have a look at this and let me know if I need to add anything else please?

 

 

Dear xxx,

 

Thank you for your response however I wish to make the following points;

 

  1. On the 11th July I requested a full breakdown of the fees including dates and times that the alleged visits occurred this was due to the fact that I have received no paperwork, nobody has knocked on my door and due to the cctv camera mentioned on the following dates 10th July, 26th July and 1st August I can show no-one has attended my property. To date this has still not been received.
  2. 16 May - Longitude 1.540285 Latitude - 52.480579 9th July - Longitude 1.540285 Latitude - 52.480579 there are the coordinates for your office as you can see it is a simple matter to find this information out online this is why I have asked for screenshots taken from the digital pen that all certified bailiffs within Birmingham are supposed to use as per your report to the Overview Scrutiny Committee.
  3. Despite requesting on the following dates 10th July, 24th July, 26th July, 1st August, 3rd August, 23rd August the details of the vehicle allegedly levied against I have still not recieved this , I have repeatedly advised that the outside of my property is a public car park and as per point 1 no-one has visited my property.
  4. As no paperwork has been put through my door, either there have been no visits or my paperwork is through one of my neighbour's doors if this is the case please advise me how we are going to compensate me for the extreme distress and embarrassment caused by the breach of the data protection act?
  5. Please can you explain to me what a 'Levy Bailiff' is as I can only find information on Certified and Uncertified bailiffs?
  6. As per my requests on 24th July, 26th July, 1st August and 23rd August please can you inform me whether Birmingham City Council allows Equita to Subcontract their Bailiff service as the bailiff is not registered as being employed by Equita.

Please be aware that on the dates claimed not only can I get CCTV footage but my husband was in the property all day on both dates, Equita also do not deal through the call centre with individuals once it has been passed to the bailiff and as such I could not have made my payment to the call centre on the 17th May. On the 9th of July the bailiff informed me via text he was too busy to talk to me and I offered the payment plan of £35 per month your guidelines state that the bailiff should have contacted you with my offer you are telling me instead he chose to levy on a random vehicle without knocking on my door or handing the paperwork to myself or my husband is this correct bearing in mind it is contrary to the guidelines and the law regarding levies?

 

This amount is outstanding through an error made by Birmingham City Council, because I believe in the need for Council Tax I am paying it your behaviour and the behaviour of your appointed representatives are causing me great distress this is particularly important in light of my medical history and the fact that the form of migraine I suffer from puts me at increase risk of stroke.

I have already requested that this by put through to the final stage complaints process as I WILL be passing this information onto the LGO and if this continues will seek legal advice.

 

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I think I need to add a bit asking what a levy bailiff is and asking again if bcc allows subcontracting

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I think you're going to ruin someones day with point 2.

 

Telling them what lines of Latitude and Longitude their offices are located. Excellent!

 

Thank you I thought that clearly illustrated my point!

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If that letter doesn't have them taking large quantities of immodium I don't know what will. They are still clinging to the hope you will submit to their perverted version of the rules. As to a Levy Bailiff, no such animal, let them explain that one.

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thanks all, do you think its good to go? and should I cc in the press?

 

 

Good idea.

 

 

More added who should this be ccd into?

 

 

Grant Shapps perhaps. One of the Ministers for Communities and Local Government.

 

Not sure which is the most appropriate address though, maybe play safe and use all:

 

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

 

 

Eric Pickles, Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, though not likely to get a reply.

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The Communities and Local Government Committee:

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Maybe this one:

[email protected]

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gone, have sent it to all of the press emails on this thread, the CEO of Crapita, Equita, and the email addys above.

 

The telegraph one came back so have found the political correspondents email addy and sent it to them

 

Also made a point of bolding the MRS as he addressed the email to Miss loving the attention to detail

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Got this to send in response to the Ministry of Justices nowt to do with us guvner email what do you think?

 

The reason for contacting yourselves is that the relationship between BCC, Capita and their bailiff companies results in a clear conflict of interest.

There are many individuals who have been subject to illegal workings by the bailiff company (front loading of fees, harassment of vulnerable individuals etc) this is then not robustly investigated by the council concerned as it is not in their interest to do so.

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