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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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my civil partner has a history of cancer, lymphoedema (severe swelling in legs and abdomen) caused by radiation treatment and surgery to her leg where a very large tumour was removed from her leg, her abductor muscle cut and femoral artery subdivided. This causes severe mobility issues, and a need for care full time as well as domestic and personal care.

 

My civil partner has claimed income based ESA since 2009, she was in the support group after first medical, put in the wrag after second medical and then started at uni from 2011-2012 to top up her HND to a degree. For this she went onto contributions based ESA, and had student funding. She has had a learning support assistant to support her whilst at uni, and me to support her needs while at home.

 

During March she found another lump which was diagnosed as a secondary malignant tumour on her back (it was a more agressive tumour than the one she had in her leg in 2008) and we sent a letter to ESA/DWP asking for a supersession request, due to her illness, treatment and surgery. with all medical evidence from her oncologist/orthopaedic surgeon.

 

At the end of April this year her contribtions ran out and her ESA ended. We were still awaiting to hear re the appeal, so I popped into the local job centre who advised she should have been receiving income based ESA after her contribtions with ESA ran out. So we filled out a change of circumstances form and sent it off.

 

on the 28th of May they sent a letter explaining they couldnt pay ESA until 26th of june when her uni course officially ended even though she did not complete due to medical reasons due to what she was going through with cancer recurrance, tests, surgery, in patient for 2 weeks etc.

 

They wrote and said she would be entitled to £160 a week from 26th of june as income related esa, I called and queried it and asked them how they calculated it as I still receive my nursing bursary of £6701 (as i am in wales!) and they said send a letter and evidence which I did almost 2 weeks ago. We are a couple and have sent proof of our Civil Partnership to them many times, yet do not want the couple rate as I have my nursing bursary and were told it would be single person rate plus WRAG plus Disabled premium.

 

Called them chasing it 3 times today...first call back left message on voicemail to call them back, I did and the person who left the message had not written any notes as to her voicemail so I requested another call back. She called me back and then when I advised that £6701 and DLA was our only income she said we wuold only be entitled to NI tax credits as my income (bursary) was above the threshold allowed. I asked her to check this...she put me on mute (not hold) and asked others in the call centre how to do/calculate it! or work it out I kept saying hello and then she said a few times "oh she has gone" even though I was still at the end of the phone!!! When I tried to call back for the third time I was told, oh they went at 5! hence at 4.55 why I could hear her but her not hear me??? strange!!!

 

 

So my question is, our only income is my nursing bursary of £6701 I am not entitled to student loan or any other finance as I am in Wales. My partners only income is DLA and we have a car out of the mobility component that is adapted to her needs.

 

Have they calculated it wrong? What could she or should she be entitled to and why? As surely they do not expect her to live on £30something a week and just my nursing bursary and her DLA. We do not get housing benefit and just 25% off council tax as I am a full time student.

 

Please help as seem to be getting nowhere with ESA and it is stressing the both of us out so much!!!!

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This could be correct, you say you are a couple but she wishes ot claim ESA IB as a single person,

this is just not possible unfortunately,

your Bursary is classed as household Income and I think this will nil her claim to ESA.

 

She may be have been entitled to ESA conts you get this in your own right but ESA IB goes on household income.

The figure I think they have quoted you is ESA couple plus the Wrag component,

 

Checked this cant get it does she get higher rate care this would mean couple EDP, this would make £160 in total

 

but if she is only on £30 as you say per week DLA this will not give her premiums, but there is no rate of DLA thats £30 :(

 

They have gone from the end of June as her student loan would have niled the claim to that day.

If she didnt receive on they have used the dates of the course

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thanks mikey, not that she wants to claim it as a single person,we are a couple and are being honest about that. however I do not want them to give her a couple rate if I am not claiming as get an income? does that make sense?

 

she was and did get contribution rate with her student loan etc but this ends on june 30th (official end date) and have appealed end of ni credits due to supersession request as her cancer returned.

 

I found this about tarriff income http://www.ceredigion.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=11636 and says that we should only pay £3 a week due to my nursing bursary. she is on high rate DLA for both, due to her conditions and care/mobility needs.

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Its so sad you have enough to contend with, but unfortunately for benefit purposes it doesnt work like that.

You are a couple and they have classed you as one, for ESA IB purposes,

 

Now you have said she DLA high Care, my calc was correct, couple rate, wrag and couple EDP £160 ish.

You bursary is an Income, there is no disregard they will take it into account pound for pound

 

That Contact centre should have closed six oclock by the way :) But the section would be gone five.

 

The link you have put on refers to capital, not income so doesnt not apply to your situation, sorry :(

 

You have appealed to get her back into the support group I think this is your only hope,

 

there are good people on here who can help you with this,

 

I dont agree I think it is awful and I sure hope you win your appeal

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Mikey - don't they ignore some of the bursary as income, for things like books, travel, etc?

 

No not Nursing Bursaries thats taken in pound for pound and attribuited over the fifty two weeks, for income based benefits

 

Student Loans or grants, yes, £350 books and a bit for travel or something like that cant remember, and thats attribuited September to end of June depending on year

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Think I am going mad.

What bursary figure do you get

What is her entitlement

Just found an on line calculator

£160 x 52 = £8320

why are you not entitled, I just took your word sorry

 

£31. O0 see it now doh!!!!!

not DLA its ESA

correct figure of entitlement then.

think its late

Yes at last lol she is entitled to £31.00 ish ESA

sorry but they are right

 

Appeal and get her back into the support group, you will be entitled to HB

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I get a nursing nhs bursary of £6,701 divided by 12 monthly payments of £558 a month. As I am studying in Wales (even though I live in England) you are not entitled to loan or grants from student loans. Plus I received them when I did my first degree so not entitled to again either.

 

Just thought they may have taken my bursary as capital or income?

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thanks mikey thought I was going mad!!

They said not entitled to any ESA yet letter said £160 as couple rate.

 

Awaiting supersession request to go back onto cont based or back into support group. For existing claim (the one we are being messed around with) have another ESA50 to complete and medical evidence and letters to support it.

 

If her only income is £31 a week wouldnt that enable her to claim for HB?? as the supersession requests have a huge backlog (apparently) as many people appealed end of their contribtutions etc around same time Kate was having her tumour removal and an inpatient.

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I get a nursing nhs bursary of £6,701 divided by 12 monthly payments of £558 a month. As I am studying in Wales (even though I live in England) you are not entitled to loan or grants from student loans. Plus I received them when I did my first degree so not entitled to again either.

 

Just thought they may have taken my bursary as capital or income?

 

No sorry, its income and sorry for the confusion, thought you menat £31 DLA living on :(

 

put your figure in here and see if there is anything else

http://www.turn2us.org.uk/benefits_search.aspx

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you should get ESA in payment from the end of June,

Housing benefit will go on household Income but I think as you are entitled to ESA IB you will get full housing benefit as they are taking your bursary off the ESA claim and they cant whack you twice for the same income, some one will correct me if wrong.

Sorry Kate is so ill and hope it goes well,

if you need help with yor ESA there are loads on here to give you advice

Nistagmite in particular

Hopefully she will get back into the support group, if she cant there is no hope left

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Housing benefit will go on household Income but I think as you are entitled to ESA IB you will get full housing benefit

 

Yes. Even if you receive a few pounds a week ESA IB, you get full housing benefit. ESA IB also entitles you to help with prescriptions, glasses, eye tests, etc.

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I think as you are entitled to ESA IB you will get full housing benefit as they are taking your bursary off the ESA claim and they cant whack you twice for the same income, some one will correct me if wrong.

 

Precisely correct, Mikey - if income is taken into account for one means-tested benefit it can't then be taken into account for another. After all, if the OP is expected to spend a certain part of her income on living expenses, she can't then be expected to spend the same money on rent. Can't spend the same money twice.

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