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    • Yeah I figured, unlikely I'll need credit anyway mortgage all paid off etc so I'll take that on the chin and learn from the experience. Probably would've beaten that too had I remembered the protocol, first time ever going through the process though sob it wasn't familiar to me  Oh well  
    • This is my slightly amended WS taking on board your previous comments, any suggestions for amendments would be most appreciated.  Thank you for you time.   1.        I am the Defendant in this matter. 2.        The facts in this statement come from my personal knowledge. 3.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 4.        The alleged Letter of Claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address. 5.        The Judgement debt was not familiar to me so I began investigations to ascertain what the debt related to and how such a figure had been equated in any event. 6.        I made immediate contact with the Court, the Claimant Solicitors and the Claimants thereafter, asking them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.  7.        I sent a Data Subject access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided – See appendix 1 which details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclaycard as well as copies of correspondence between us. 8.        I do not admit to entering an agreement with Barclaycard in 2000. 9.       The claimant has failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis and therefore this claim should be automatically struck out.  10.    The claimants have failed to disclose a true executed copy of the original agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim. They are not entitled to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 12.   The reconstituted standard Barclaycard agreement that the claimant has included in the court bundle does not satisfy any CCA request and so the claimant is and remains in default of my CCA request and therefore unable to enforce the alleged agreement. 13.  The claimants have failed to provide proof the assignment, such as a deed of assignment. 14.  The claimant has failed to provide a statement of account setting out how the alleged debt accrued under that agreement 15.   Despite numerous requests to the claimant, I have still not seen any evidence, such as an original agreement or deed of assignment, that substantiates the claimant’s assertion that I owe the debt to the claimant, nor evidence of how the debt was accrued. 16.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • A set aside application costs £275 which is more than the judgement so not worth it. Not that they would grant a set aside anyway.  Set asides are granted, for example, to people who moved and didn't get the court papers, so have a genuine reason for not defending.  Forgetting doesn't count. Your only choices are to pay up within 30 days, or defy the court and not pay.  If the latter, we've never seen a PPC enforce judgement for a single ticket, ever, you would get away without paying - but you would have a CCJ and a knackered credit file for six years.
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my partner has an on going arangement with cl finance a debt that was sold

to them by ge capital 5 years ago, in september of last year she requested from

them a copy of the agreement cca request 77-78 and paid the £1 fee for this

request,after sending them countless letters complaining that this request was

still outstanding they finaly sent a copy of the agreement in febuary

however the agreement was for another person,showing details of loan

account, bank details etc..this was a clear breach of some one elses data

protection, she contacted the people whos data had been breached and posted

the document to them explaining what has happened,they have since complained

to cl finance and the information commissioners office, she also wrote a letter of

complaint to cl fininace about the breach of some one elses data and the fact

they still had not sent to her a copy of the agreement she requested

and gave them 28 days in which to rectify the matter,she finaly recieved a letter

on thursday confirming thay do not hold a copy of the agreement and have contacted

ge capital for a copy and they also do not hold a copy,the account number my

partner has is the same as the persons whos data had been breached and this

was printed off when my partners account details were entered for a copy of

the agreement,but the member of staff dealing with the agreement didnt

check that the details were correct and just posted it to her,however in their

letter they explian that although the agreement is now unenforcable,she still

has to pay the debt other wise they will send her details to a debt collection agency

and mark her credit file as an unpaid debt and they say this is what the office of

fair trading would say if we contacted them about this ? and to keep up the repayments

now if this is the case,does she continue to pay or stop payments altogether ?

she has complained to the information commissioners office and working with the

other people whos data had been breached to make a formal complaint,in fact

they have become good freinds through this.

 

many thanks in advance.

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her payment isnt due for another 2 weeks the remaining balace is about £2000

and she pays around £30 a month the £1 fee is being returned to her as they

have,nt provided her with a copy of the agreement and confim in the letter

there isnt one but to still pay what she owes and at the rate she has been paying

other wise it will go to a debt collection agency and late payment fees will be

incurred.

 

thanks conniff

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The account is obviously in dispute, so stop paying, they have admitted they can't collect. Giving it to someone else to collect don't change anything, you don't have a contract or agreement with them either.

 

How much of this is charges ? Is there any ppi you can claim back on the loan ?

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hiya conniff

 

it was a defaulted loan from about 7 years ago ,theres no ppi on the loan

the original creditor was beneficial finance who sold the loan on to ge capital

who gave her an arrangement to repay the balance due to financial difficulties

she paid them for about a year they then sold the debt on to cl finance

the only paper work she has received from them in the time they have had

the account is regular statements showing amount paid and outstanding balace

 

thanks again.

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Hi Waddington,

 

Just a quick heads up. Keep your eye on CL Finance as they love issuing court papers. They ignored all my correspondence requesting payment plan, CCA etc and sent straight to Howard Cohen Solicitors who got a judgement against me for a £400 debt.

 

Good luck with them

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hi up2meers

 

thanks for that will bear that in mind,my partner is now waiting feed back from

the information commissioners office to see what happens next.regarding the

breach of the other persons data sent to her.if cl or ge capital do not hold any

documentation of an account how can they make any one pay whats owed

when there is no proof of debt ? if that is the case and they are saying that

although the debts not enforcable and she should maintain payments,she should

be within her rights to say i will pay you £1 a month from hereon until the debt

is paid,no agreement no agreement of payment shedule.

 

will take a look rebel 11 thanks for that.

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