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    • Well done. Are you able to tell us more about how it went on the day please? HB
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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business CEntre Name of the Claimant ? Lowell Portfolio i Ltd How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue –  15 Feb 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The claim is for the sum of £922 due by the Defendant under and agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for a Capital One account with an account reference of [number with 16 digits] The Defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a Default Notice was served under s.87(1) of the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 which has not been complied with. The debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 16-06-23, notice of which has been given to the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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I was in court in Oxford, and I doubt v much that Frogboy is going to have her field day. But, even if she does, we will have a right of appeal to the Court of Appeal, and the ruling there WILL set a binding legal precedent. So, hey, I'm sleeping well tonight.

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I am sleeping well also,but thought would watch a film maybe inspired by RLP costings.

THE MATRIX

Storyline

 

Thomas A. Anderson is a man living two lives. By day he is an average computer programmer and by night a hacker known as Neo. Neo has always questioned his reality, but the truth is far beyond his imagination. Neo finds himself targeted by the police when he is contacted by Morpheus, a legendary computer hacker branded a terrorist by the government. Morpheus awakens Neo to the real world, a ravaged wasteland where most of humanity have been captured by a race of machines that live off of the humans' body heat and electrochemical energy and who imprison their minds within an artificial reality known as the Matrix. As a rebel against the machines, Neo must return to the Matrix and confront the agents: super-powerful computer programs devoted to snuffing out Neo and the entire human rebellion.

 

Yes we know the feeling-who can imagine RLPs invoices being realistically legitimate.

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a legendary computer hacker branded a terrorist

 

So is sure to feature on Cireco's database ?

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andwho imprison their minds within an artificial reality known as the Matrix.

 

It must be an artificial reality since RLP did not bother to provide it.

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Neo must return to the Matrix and confront the agents

 

But first must make an urgent telephone call higher up.

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There is a rumour that RLP did not provide The Matrix for scrutiny,as they got tipped off that there was an Enigma machine in the Oxford museum :lol:

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The genius of Martin3030's humour will be revealed to all when the transcript of the trial becomes available, with the many references (by RLP, TSS and The Retailer That Cannot Be Named) to the mysterious but all powerful Matrix. At the moment, you really need to have been there. Though no doubt Frogboy could explain it to us. She knows EVERYTHING. Maybe she's The One. Or maybe she took the pink pill when she should have taken the blue one.

 

Finally, to the Troll who's been trying to hack my CAG account: what is it you want to know? Why don't you just email or phone me? You know who I am, and where I work. And when are you going to realise that we are not as stupid as you are?

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Yes we are aware of these foiled attempts at severe disruption....not to mention diversion.

And dont have to take the system offline to do the processing.............:roll:

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But no diversion, let alone significant disruption, caused by the Troll. Because you'd be working on the CAG site anyway. Performing one of your core functions: dealing with Trolls.

 

Which is a shame, coz otherwise you'd be able to issue a county court claim against them for the time spent dealing with their nefarious activity. Obviously, you'd want to claim 7 hours 30 minutes for every hour (or less) that you actually spent dealing with the, er, incident. :-)

 

Umecan seems to have taken my advice and used the weekend to calm down. As for Frogboy, who knows where she is this morning. She probably doesn't know herself. :-D

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Neo must return to the Matrix and confront the agents

 

But first must make an urgent telephone call higher up.

 

Martin, you're wasted on here. You should be working in something that could make full use of your intellectual and comic abilities. Retail, maybe.

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I was thinking of maybe loss prevention and speculative invoicing,but I read somewhere that there's no future in that.

 

We had a case here over the weekend of significant disruption,one of the site team forgot to replenish the hob nobs.

An investigation has been started but was delayed, as the key for the holding room has gone missing.

We had to do it in the CAG cellar amongst piles of dusty files containing RLP CAG complaints.

 

ohhh look-frogboy is Lurking.

 

Good morning Frogboy,I trust your weekend was productive ?

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You'll need to start dusting off all those RLP files soon, as of course anyone who has ever paid any money to RLP (or the other speculative invoicers) is going to want to take legal action to recover that money. Hang on - a lightbulb has just gone on! I'm off to set up a business, which I will call Civil Recovery Recovery Services Ltd.

 

Obviously, I'll need an inhouse lawyer. I guess Frogboy might be available. :wink:

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Maybe a Class Action/Group Action.:-)

 

You'll need to start dusting off all those RLP files soon, as of course anyone who has ever paid any money to RLP (or the other speculative invoicers) is going to want to take legal action to recover that money. Hang on - a lightbulb has just gone on! I'm off to set up a business, which I will call Civil Recovery Recovery Services Ltd.

 

Obviously, I'll need an inhouse lawyer. I guess Frogboy might be available. :wink:

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Obviously, you'd want to claim 7 hours 30 minutes for every hour (or less) that you actually spent dealing with the, er, incident.

 

Me and my maths - what am I like? It wasn't 7 hours and 30 minutes - it was 6 hours and 45 minutes.

 

I should post up the claimant's Schedule of Loss (redacted, so as not to reveal the identity of the Retailer That Cannot Be Named, obviously). The interesting question - which no doubt the SRA will be attempting to answer in due course - is: who wrote the Schedule (and the associated Witness Statements)? The Retailer Who Cannot Be Named, their solicitors (Shakespeares), or RLP? And the security industry regulator may want to ask TSS why their staff signed the Witness Statements and swore in the witness box that they were a true statement of the facts.

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Maybe a Class Action/Group Action.:-)

 

We will have to run it past ACPO.

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I don't know about 40%, but maybe some 'sheets of paper' that were destined to be used as 'speculative invoices', maybe we can get them at a knock down price.:-D

 

Anyway you like, as long as I get my 40%. (Though I have it on good authority that, in the case of The Retailer That Cannot Be Named, it is actually 60%. Suckers!)
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Was the way that RLP (on behalf of A Retailer amongst others) use a debt collection agency to try to get people to pay, when no debt exists (i.e. before they have won a court case), brought out in court?

 

No, we only had a day and a half! And, of course, the claimant (The Retailer That Cannot Be Named) objected to "any attempt to make this case about anything other than the tortious conduct of the First and Second Defendants".

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