Enrolment refusal?

[xmedia]

Just asking on behalf of a friend of my daughters

 

She is currently doing an NVQ Level 2 course and will obviously want to continue to do the Level 3.

 

In late August she will be having an operation which basically involves having her jaw broken and has a four week recovery period.

 

She was talking to tutor about this and was told she would not be allowed to enrol for the Level 3 course because she would miss too much work. She is 18 so if she has to wait till the following year she will have to pay for the course. The course starts around 5th September.

 

Is this correct that she can't enrol as usually nothing much is done in first week and she is prepared to work to catch up. The four weeks is only a guideline recovery period it could be shorter, depends on the individual.

 

Seems a bit wrong to me but just wanted to see if they were allowed to stop her enrolement.

[DanscoCAB]

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[cardigan1]

Hi

 

How old will your friend's daughter be on 1st Sept & is she attending a college in England ?

[xmedia]

She will be 18 in August, enrolment is September but if she has to wait till next year she will be 19 and will have to pay

 

Yes it is in England

[assisted blonde]

Enrol before she has op, then go sick, not sure she can be thrown off the course once she has enrolled for being ill. worth a try

[stu007]

Hi

 

I have to agree with assisted blonde on this ENROL BEFORE THE OP, then go sick. If you can have a look at there website where they ar going to enrol as they should have a students handbook which should give info on time off for medical reasons.

[xmedia]

Trouble is she has already told them she has to have op in August that is why they won't accept her enrolment.

 

Will have a look at the student handbook though see if that says anything

[assisted blonde]

If she didnt put in writing she could say that the op has been postponed and she is waiting for a new date, or that she has postponed until she has completed her course. Just a question though if her op isnt until late August then its not an emergency so could she manage to carry on without having it for now and actually ask for a new date or could she say to the hospital that she would take a late cancellation if it becomes available?

[xmedia]

Not sure I think it is an op she has been waiting for a while that they would only do when she is 18 and they are doing it as soon after her 18th birthday as they had a slot for. She has some sort of problem with her jaw she has had all her life and they waited till she older to do the op.

 

She hasn't put it into writing she just mentioned it to her tutor in passing

 

Couldn't find anything in the student handbook about absence due to illness

[assisted blonde]

well mention to the tutor in passing that op has been postponed really cant see that they can stop her enroling if there are places on the course, colleges are under pressure to fill courses so unless its really oversubscribed I cant see their problem

[xmedia]

Ok I'll tell her to do that then or just not mention it again as tutor might forget anyway, it was only a passing comment she made when they were talking about how many wanted to carry on to level 3.

 

They did say the places were going to be limited a while back though as a lot of them have low attendance and tutor said if they had below 90% they wouldn't be guaranteed a place.

[assisted blonde]

Dont mention it again unless tutor remembers and just sign up worry about time off afterwards, its not really the tutors problem if she has to go sick, its not a job its a course so it wont be costong him/her anything and if she had an accident or similar they would be only too happy to help with extra tuition/honme work etc to enable her to catch up. Good luck

[cardigan1]

At the moment 16-18 year olds are like gold dust to colleges due to the amount of money they bring in, so I think that it is highly unlikely they won't let her enrol. I know from experience that students are reguarly re enrolled when they've said that they're not coming back or have other plans, just to keep numbers up! Also student are enrolled even if they won't come in for a number of weeks for reasons such as illness, holidays etc. What may happen is that all the students will be re-enrolled automatically near the end of course with the assumption they will come back in September. She really needs to get hold of the colleges terms & conditions that she should've received when she enrolled & have read through to see what they say regarding absence. If they are already enrolling for next year grab a copy of that. Try and get a paper enrolment form if she can as that should have everything on it. In the meantime tell her not to panic as it's early days & things will probably change nearer September when numbers are down. She should also look around to see if she could study the course elsewhere a sixth form or another college for example .A place elsewhere can cause wonders come September!!

[Simon Reading]

Seems like a sticky situation. The best way is probably what has been echoed on this forum of enrolling then going on the sick if you can, or trying to come to some kind of agreement whereby she could do some work during her recovery. Seems quite harsh that they would just refuse her enrolment when she has to have this operation.

[xmedia]

I have passed all the suggestions on to her. She doesn't want to alter the date for the operation as she has been waiting to be able to have the op for years and is glad it has finally come round. I fail to see she would miss anything significant in the first couple of weeks.

 

They put that much "extra" stuff on courses to pad them out they only actually started doing nails when they went back on the course after Xmas break, first 3 and a bit months were other bits and pieces. Think this is because they haven't actually got the station space for the amount of students at the start so can't go straight into it. Couple of months in they have lost a few so then can cope/

 

Unfortunately where we are there is only one campus that has the facilities to do the nail course so it is space restricted and there were more bums than seats at the start of this course, they seem to rely on a certain amount dropping out or being thrown off to level it out, so they say as there are limited places that you have to have at least a certain level of attendance the previous year to get a place on the next level.

 

Think they are using her op as an excuse not to get over subscribed again next year and fob her off. Luckily nothing put in writing and was only a casual comment on her side so if she goes to enrol in early August then she might be accepted as the convo might have been forgotten by then.

[cardigan1]

Sounds like a case of numbers/money rather than anything else. Remember colleges also get paid for achievement so this is probably the reason that other things were studied beforehand. Sorts the wheat from the chaff if you see what I mean. Lack of space is probably the last reason....

 

As I said before tell her to re-enrol preferably as soon as she can & don't worry about being accepted. Remember she is gold-dust to the college, they deffo won't want to lose her!!

Good luck with her operation.