Parking Charge Notice Issued

[CHL LAU NAT]

A few weeks ago I received a ‘Parking Charge Notice’ from a private company called LDK Security Group Ltd. I had bough a parking ticket and I was well within the time limits of my stay. However, when I returned to my car the ticket was not on the dashboard where I left it, but it had fallen onto the floor. It was face up and you could see the ticket from the outside. I have already sent a letter to appeal the PCN, but they have replied and said that I still have to pay. They have also acknowledeged that I did actually have a valid parking ticket, but that it was not displayed correctly and the parking attendant did not see it on the floor. Do I have a case to argue or not? I have read other threads which say that I should just ignore the threats of debt collection agencies and court procedings from companies like this.

[memgrubb]

It's a speculative invoice... ignore. You shouldn't have even appealed.

[CHL LAU NAT]

As I have appealed, does that change anything. Do I just ignore any further correspondance from them and all will be ok?

[Jamberson]

Ignore. They can't make you pay, so don't bother with them. Just ignore.

[memgrubb]

No sure on that one, sorry. If you look around the forums though there is hundreds of threads along these lines...

[Tony P]

Having appealed (unsuccessfully - what a surprise!) you go back to all initial advice - I G N O R E.

 

Depending on your wording in your 'appeal' you may have admitted to being the Driver at the time (or you could have been a passenger in your own car!).

 

Knowing the identity of a Driver is just the first of many problems they have before any County Court Judge throws out their speculative claim.

 

Sadly you will receive a series of threat-0-gramms dressed up with nonsense legal phrases (sometimes even in red ink) promising everything from flogging and public execution down to trying to just get you to pay them something - even if a reduced amount, having failed to scare some out of you with big amounts!

[CHL LAU NAT]

Thanks for your replies.

 

I did not mention who was driving the car. However, I did say things in the letter like 'I arrived at the car park' and 'I obtained a valid parking ticket'. I could still be a passneger in the car and those points would still apply?

[Jamberson]

Don't worry about it. Nothing will happen except the junk mail.

[CHL LAU NAT]

Thanks.

 

Will do nothing and wait and see what happens!

[CHL LAU NAT]

Based on previous threads I am going to ignore the letters that I receive from LDK in the future. However, one point that I would like clearing up (as I have been reading other similar threads) is with regards to entering into a contract with the landowner. Is it not the case that by entering the car park, driving past the information board which states the terms and conditions of parking, is that not an acceptance of the terms and therefore you are bound by any penalties?

[Tony P]

First hurdle - who was the Driver to take action against.? They know you were there, that's all!

Second hurdle - How can they find out who the Driver was? All they get from DVLA is the Registered Keeper who has no legal obligation to inform who was the Driver, except to the Police or Local Authority

Third hurdle - Courts will not back up claims for penalties.

Fourth hurdle - All they can claim is their loss. You can prove you paid for the time you were there - so no losses!

Fifth hurdle - PPCs do not go to Court because continually losing is bad for them as word gets around. The only dubiously successful cases were almost certainly against 'planted victims'. We even get PPC plants on these forums giving 'advice' to pay!

 

That is why you will get a series of increasing threats but no stamped Court Papers. Some PPCs have even sent out blank or unstamped Court papers trying to frighten the weak and wavering into GIVING them money they do not have to.

Edited February 21, 2012 by Tony P

[Jamberson]

Don't worry about it. Nothing will happen except the junk mail.

[CHL LAU NAT]

Thanks. Its just a bit worrying after reading other threads on this subject that I will no doubt get all this 'junk mail' from them threatening all sorts. I don't want any debt collector appearing at my door threatening my family!

[havinastella]

Thanks. Its just a bit worrying after reading other threads on this subject that I will no doubt get all this 'junk mail' from them threatening all sorts. I don't want any debt collector appearing at my door threatening my family!

 

Well pay it then!

[Tony P]

Well pay it then!

 

Must be a plant !

[dadtaxi]

Well pay it then!

 

Probably not a plant but mabye havinastella was a bit short. What he meant to sat that these 'invoices' are printed in BOLD RED SCARY print designed exactly to scare and intemidate you to pay up.

Ignore them and they will go away.

However if you are nervious enough and rich enough to just want to make them go away then by all means pay up. However I assume yiu came to this site for advice and all the prevailing advice is to IGNORE.

 

there, was that big and scary enough?

[DBC]

Debt collectors don't turn up at people's door. They don't work that way. They rely on the stupid "threatening" letters to scare people into paying up. It's not worth their while to make home visits. Perhaps you are confusing them with proper bailiffs . They are " officers of the court" and only get involved if the case goes to court (very unlikely) you lose (very, very unlikely) and then you omit pay whatever the judge orders within 28 days. Debt collectors on the other hand are just private citizens with no special powers. They cannot enter your premises, they cannot seize goods and they cannot damage your credit record.

[havinastella]

Probably not a plant but mabye havinastella was a bit short. What he meant to sat that these 'invoices' are printed in BOLD RED SCARY print designed exactly to scare and intemidate you to pay up.

Ignore them and they will go away.

However if you are nervious enough and rich enough to just want to make them go away then by all means pay up. However I assume yiu came to this site for advice and all the prevailing advice is to IGNORE.

 

there, was that big and scary enough?

 

 

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