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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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Basically same old story as everyone else and got stuck with numerous payday loans. Due to a recent split with wife I am unable to pay these off. I was working on them one by one and paying off interest of the others. I cannot do that now.

 

I have readied myself for this and have opened a new account and reported old debit card as stolen. I know they may still apply but is aas much as I can do.

 

I am going to e-mail them all tomorrow to explain the situation and what I am proposing to pay. Realistically this will be £30 a month.

 

I have a house with my ex and am worried this is in danger but then I am sure these are unsecured debts so as long as I agree a payment plan with then or a DCA and stick to it I will be ok. Well as much as I can be.

 

My own fault and I know that and I am not trying to avoid it but would appreciate any advice and that my assumptions are correct as I want to get these paid off in 2012.

 

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It might be worth looking at the amounts you have to pay back on these loans if you havnt yet defaulted.

 

ask all the lenders if the will freeze interest and charges if you pay them the £30 per month (I assume none of them will but you never know).

 

if none of them will freeze int and charges you may be better off clearing the smallest one or two in full to prevent these charges being added (if they are going to add fees anyway it doesnt matter if they get paid initially) you can then pay the remaining lenders a higher amount the next month as there will be less of them and you will have saved yourself a few hundred pounds in fees etc..

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Thanks very much for the advice and I think that will be my plan in January to clear them. My only problem is that I wont be able to make a payment in December. With splitting up and moving out and we have a son together and I need to give money to them as a priority.

 

I will be able to make payments in Jan as I will have had the initial outlay of moving out. Bond, etc. I have got this through work but obviously have to pay back. So with not paying anything in December I think that idea wont work. Though I will try and suggest one of the lenders repayment higher in Jan than the rest with a view to clearing that off and then working on the next. I know I will incur fees and not complaining about that. I just want to get to agree a figure to pay back so I know where I am and to freeze interest.

 

Am I right on the unsecured debt part?

 

Thanks again for your help

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yes dont worry any threats to your house these are not secured loans.

 

the worst they could ever do is to get a charging order on your property (which would mean you have to pay them back when you sell) but they would have to get a CCJ 1st them apply to the court etc.. to much trouble for them if your wiling to pay them back by instalment.

 

they will threaten court etc.. by mostly empty threats, if you get any court papers turn up get back onto this site and there will be experienced people to help you defend it, not too difficult to defend due to the high costs and charges.

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Many Thanks for all your help and as lowered the stress levels a little bit. I will ensure I make a payment to them every month and try to get rid as soon as I can. I am sure most of them will be ok and see what they say.

 

Again I appreciate your responses

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Just to update on this.

 

Microlend have agreed to a repayment plan though I am worried by some of the stories on here they will try to take more than they have agreed.

 

Liquid Advance wanted £105 now and then arrange a repayment plan.

 

I still have Mini Credit, Early Payday Loans and Cash Genie to deal with.

 

My worry is now that court orders will be done and if the bank does let payments go out then I will be in debt with them. My mortgage is with the bank and I am out of my mind that failure to pay them back will mean house is taken away.

 

Does anyone know what happens here? I have around £3K in debts total to payday loans company and I am offering payments of around £250 to £300 a month in repayment. I cannot let the house get taken and can anyone advise my best options.

 

I know my credit rating will be wrecked regardless but I cannot let get a attachment of earnings or house taken. If I get issued a court order will I get chance to pay directly first before AOE stage?

 

Please any advice is welcome as I am going out of my mind with all this and with break up I cannot cope with it all

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Hi firstly it's massively important that you make sure to keep up to date with your priority payments (Mortgage, Council Tax, Water, Gas, Electric, Tv Licence !

always pay your debts with the funds that are remaining after you've paid these vital areas !.

 

You need to actively default on a CCJ for them to take further action against you such as putting a charge on your property !, they are allowed to apply for this but it would be up to the court to deceide !, if they we're to put a charge on your property it would most likely be a sitting charge meaning if wouldn't become applicable until you sold the property which at that point they will claim the funds back.

 

You are not at this stage yet !, which is very important the likely route is the PDL companies will sell the debt on to a debt recovery firm who will then look to make contact with you and arrange a payment schedule !. The first thing you will know if it does get to the CCJ stage is a blue form from your local county court which is a claim form ! you'd need to fill it out within 17 days and you get a chance to make a suitable offer to the debt (of what you can afford) at no stage of the collections process can a creditor take from you more than you can afford !.

 

Summary:

 

Your debts will likely take this route:

 

LENDER \ DEBT RECOVERY \ and sometimes to a CCJ

 

Always pay in this order

 

MORTGAGE \ GAS \ ELECTRIC \ WATER \ TV LICENCE \ SECURED LOANS PRIORITIES !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

General living expenditure comes next INSURANCES \ MAINTENANCE COVER \ FOOD \ CLOTHING etc

 

With any funds remaining pay your debts they are a non priority of yours though meaning a creditor cant take your house away and can only take from you what your prepared to pay !.

 

Offer the creditors what you can afford and pay it anyway regardless if they let you or not.

 

Also seek some professional help there are 3 main free services who are good at devising a plan for you and making things easier !

 

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If you google their numbers they will be able to help !

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Thanks. My main problem is mini credit. They are adding charges and interest every day. I spoke to someone as couldn't get e mails through. She said my debt of £250 that I got will be £2072 in 3 months when they will take legal action. So know this will go to court. Will I be allowed to pay the court order directly as she said it may be a straight AOE. That could cause me to lose my job. I am so stressed which is making me very I'll and can't sleep. Would appreciate any help as worried to death about all this

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She's talking rubbish.

 

Firstly, I'd like to see them take you to court for 10 x the original amount - I'm sure the judge would love that. Secondly, even if they did take you to court, an attachment of earnings order is an enforcement measure - the court would only agree to it if you haven't paid what it had ordered. So stop worrying about that.

 

Don't talk to them on the phone again - it's only on the phone that they make these ridiculous claims, because they know they'd be in trouble if they did it in writing. I'm trying to find a postal address for them for you, but it's not something that's easy to find! I can't imagine why....

"Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me". Martin Niemöller

 

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http://www.cccs.co.uk/InfoCentre/EnglandandWales/Creditoraction/Courtaction/CCJ.aspx

 

Please see above link, Mini Credit are bluffing you can't get an attachment of earnings before a CCJ

CCJ needs to be issued by a court not this tin-pot company who thinks an email classes as a default notice, please don't fall for it.

 

http://www.cccs.co.uk/InfoCentre/EnglandandWales/Creditoraction/Courtaction/Attachmentofearnings.aspx

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Thanks. That is good to know. I tried to e mail mini credit but couldn't find one. The charges are in the agreement so guess I will have to defend it in court. I know the Debts are unsecured and I can pay small payments till get back on track. Am I right in thinking this will be ok whether it be direct, DCA or CCJ?

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Yeah I think so, I recently see their DCA is Daniels Silverman (they MC may pass to this external company) which whilst I don't like DCA, DS being a 'proper' one should at least give you their bank account details or giro slip to be able to pay in at a bank

 

Have you tried reporting Mini Credit?

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Address for Mini Credit. 30 Borough High Street, London, SE1 1XU

 

Anything is better then being on the phone to them

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No. Going to try get e mail address. I don't mind dealing with a DCA but they said will be straight to court. Will write or e mail so I have a record.

 

I still have another 7 companies to sort out but hoping I can pay direct. Anyone know about Liquid Advance, cash genie, 247 money box, wage day advance and early pay day Loan company?

 

If can get agreements in place it will relieve a lot of stress.

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try this as email address.... can't guantee it will be work

 

 

Edit: and try this

 

 

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Quote I still have another 7 companies to sort out but hoping I can pay direct. Anyone know about Liquid Advance, cash genie email [email protected]

, 247 money box, email [email protected] wage day advance and early pay day Loan company?

 

The others I really don't know about - not used them

Someone else?

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Well I have negotiated with Cash Genie now who seem very reasonable and will accept my payment. My main problem is Mini Credit. They have added on £130 to the debt in 4 days!! Trying to get a loan via work to pay this one off though I will be offering considerably less. If I can get that sorted it will be a huge relief. 247 Moneybox dont seem to know how to respond to e-mails and EPDl havent even replied. Other than that dealt with most.

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Most dont really. Cash Genie is charging me £75 extra than amount due and I am paying £20 a month. I know it is more than original debt but I kind of expected a penalty for failure to pay and accepting the repayment plan which is peace of mind for me for that loan and that is worth the £75. Mini Credit are just rip off merchants who try to collect the debt 3 times a day and charge you £5 for it. I just want rid of these and spread the word to everyone avoid Mini Credit - Though in my case I never want to see another payday loan company after I get these in order. Totally my fault and I accept that but some of them are pure evil once you default. To balance this out I would like to add that the majority of mine Wonga, Cash Genie, Txt Loan and Micro Lend have been very fair and reasonable.

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