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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. 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If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
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Hi, they are ''private detectives'' and tracing agents

used by banks ectc. the specialise in GONE AWAY

cases, were people have moved and not informed creditor of their

new address,just ignore DON'T PHONE.

Or WRITE.

 

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Thanks

 

I couldn't find them on the CSA website. Thought they had to be a member, or is there more than one 'association'

so it is a phishing trip... (actual fact the letter was to my friend's daughter who DID live at that address. Freind and daughter have same first name and letter didn't have any Mrs/Ms etc so friend thought it was for her)

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This another lot that seem to crop up in

sudden bursts of action and then vanish.

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They've supposed to have been trading for 35 yrs but hey ho it could be a clerical error. :!:

 

Company Name: INTER-CREDIT INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

 

 

 

 

Previous Name(s): NO PREVIOUS NAME HAS BEEN RECORDED DURING THE LAST 20 YEARS

 

Registered Number: 01024737

 

Registered Office: SOUTH POINT HOUSE 2ND FLOOR

321 CHASE ROAD SOUTHGATE

LONDON

N14 6JT

 

Incorporation Date: 21/09/1971

 

Country Of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

 

Accounting Reference Date: 31/03

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/12/2010

Next Accounts Due: 31/12/2012

 

Last Annual Return: 13/03/2011

Next Annual Return Due: 10/04/2012

 

Company Status: Active

Type of Accounts: SMALL Accounts

 

Nature Of Business: 7487 - Other business activities

 

 

Filing History

 

 

12/05/2011 CURREXT FROM 31/12/2011 TO 31/03/2012

14/04/2011 SECRETARY APPOINTED JASON GOODWIN

14/04/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR NIGEL ALAN BAKER

06/04/2011 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, SECRETARY SIMON DAVISON

06/04/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED ADRIAN PETER PAGE

06/04/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR NIGEL HUW PARKER LLOYD

06/04/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR PHILLIP CHARLES NEWLAND

22/03/2011 13/03/11 FULL LIST

22/03/11 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 50000

17/02/2011 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/10

30/09/2010 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/09

30/03/2010 13/03/10 FULL LIST

30/03/2010 REGISTER(S) MOVED TO SAIL ADDRESS

114-REG MEM

162-REG DIR

275-REG SEC

358-REC OF RES ETC

702-CONT RE PUR OWN SHARES

30/03/2010 SAIL ADDRESS CREATED

30/03/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / BRENDAN JAMES EDWARD GLOVER / 13/03/2010

30/03/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / SIMON PETER DAVISON / 13/03/2010

24/06/2009 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 24/06/09 FROM:

GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 24/06/2009 FROM

4TH FLOOR SOUTH POINT HOUSE

321 CHASE ROAD

SOUTHGATE

LONDON

N14 6JT

07/06/2009 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/08

21/03/2009 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/09; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

07/08/2008 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/08; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS

28/03/2008 ALTERATION TO MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES

26/03/2008 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/07

29/06/2007 ALTERATION TO MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES

29/06/2007 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/06

30/05/2007 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

30/01/2007 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 30/01/07 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 30/01/07

FIRST FLOOR, NEWBY HOUSE

309 CHASE ROAD

SOUTHGATE

LONDON N14 6JS

05/09/2006 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/05

06/04/2006 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

15/06/2005 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/04

05/05/2005 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED

05/05/2005 SECRETARY RESIGNED

27/04/2005 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

13/07/2004 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/03

19/04/2004 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/04; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

17/06/2003 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/02

13/04/2003 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/03; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

11/06/2002 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/01

26/04/2002 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/02; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

18/06/2001 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/00

04/05/2001 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/01; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

02/06/2000 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/99

24/03/2000 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/00; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

19/05/1999 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/99; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

11/05/1999 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/98

03/04/1998 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/97

20/03/1998 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/98; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

18/03/1998 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

21/07/1997 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/96

26/03/1997 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/97; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

24/07/1996 DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

28/03/1996 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/95

24/03/1996 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/96; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

19/02/1996 DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

18/10/1995 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 18/10/95 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 18/10/95

INTER CREDIT HOUSE

207 CRESCENT ROAD

NEW BARNET

HERTS EN4 8SW

27/03/1995 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/95; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS

20/03/1995 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/94

22/03/1994 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/93

22/03/1994 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/94; CHANGE OF MEMBERS

06/07/1993 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

04/05/1993 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/92

30/03/1993 RETURN MADE UP TO 13/03/93; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

30/03/1993 DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

 

 

Mortgage Data

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Thanks for the info. Neither friend or daughter know of any reason why the DVLC would be chasing after about 4 years. She is assuming it is chasing her bank debt.

 

They are members of the CSA but not under Civil Investigations:

Company: InterCredit International Ltd

Services: Consumer Debt Collection, Business to Business Debt Collection, Court Action, Status Enquiries / Company Searches, International Collections, Debt Purchase, Tracing

Region: South East

 

They will be ignored I am sure

 

What seems disreputable is that they don't identify their purpose or their client, only that after my friend has contacted them to confirm residence at the previous location will they be authorized to disclose their instructions. I thouhgt debt collectors had to identify their intentions, not fool around with cloak and dagger stuff, though even if they are supposed to, its no wonder they dont- what sanction is ever applied to these ****?

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What seems disreputable is that they don't identify their purpose or their client, only that after my friend has contacted them to confirm residence at the previous location will they be authorized to disclose their instructions. I thouhgt debt collectors had to identify their intentions, not fool around with cloak and dagger stuff, though even if they are supposed to, its no wonder they dont- what sanction is ever applied to these ****?
It's because they are fishing. it is quite possible that they have contacted several people with the same name.
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What seems disreputable is that they don't identify their purpose or their client, only that after my friend has contacted them to confirm residence at the previous location will they be authorized to disclose their instructions. I thouhgt debt collectors had to identify their intentions, not fool around with cloak and dagger stuff, though even if they are supposed to, its no wonder they dont- what sanction is ever applied to these ****?

 

 

Undoubtedly fishing, and communicating in a misleading way or failing to make clear who they are and what they want is against the OFT Guidance on Debt Collection, compliance with which is a condition of their consumer credit licence. However, the OFT do not regulate anywhere near robustly enough - like the looters, they do it because they know they can get away with it.

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I'm afraid there's not much regulation of tracing agents.

but they are also debt collectors, their website makes that clear

 

I saw a moan from the CSA in response to some consultation document from the OFT complaining that the OFT want to have controls on tracing agents as on DCAs to prove their competence........ I think someone needs to have a word with the OFT about things like "controls" "competence" etc. DCAs are hardly good examples of competent, effectively controlled companies

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Agreed, at the moment the tracing agents business

seems to be separate from the DCA side, you

don't need a CCL to be one as their ''trade''

includes matrimonial investigations and the like.

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yes we have viola french frogs water here to tastes

so foul we need blo0dy expensive filters to be able

to drink the recycled pi*s from the River Colne:madgrin:

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I received a letter from Civil Investigations at the weekend and found this forum before calling them. I then contacted DVLA in Swansea and its regarding an outstanding penalty for my vehicle which I hadnt road taxed for over six months ( this was about three years ago). I had moved and forgot to inform them of my new address. So they eventually passed my details onto this company to find me.

 

Stupid thing is that I had contacted DVLA as soon as I realised that I hadnt paid my road tax so they had my new adress for the past two years. Why they need to use another company to chase me afterwards is a mystery to me.

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If you get a letter from Civil Investigations, DO NOT REPLY. It's an attempt to bully you into parting with £80. They started contacting us last year about a SORN we had supposedly neglected to send, sending official-sounding letters every couple of weeks for a while, then referring us onto a lawyer, who also badgered us. We didn't acknowledge receipt of any of their letters, nor did we phone them, as they asked us to do. We held tight like this for a few months and eventually the letters stopped.

 

That's how you defeat these cockroaches.

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