BT ordered to block piracy links in Court ruling.

[compnet]

I agree. That is what the predominantly Islamic-dominated UN is trying to achieve, to censor the internet and to silence any dissent. Governments follow suit like puppets. The interesting thing is that a court, according to the report, not the government ordered BT to block a website. We really need to have a look at our "justice" system that gives human rights to criminals away from the victim. It also facilitates bigger government control through censorship using excuses such as piracy and crime to justify their restrictive actions.

[locutus]

There is no need to specify that it's "Islamic-dominated"... I'm sure Mr Cleg and Mr Cameron would welcome the power to censor the information that us plebs receive online

[labpedro]

On the other hand (I've got different fingers ) Seriously though, with ISP's blocking access to download sites, people may feel they dont need that uber fast 50/100meg connection, so will drop their package down to the minimum that is useable...2meg would suffice for most who dont download the whole world every night, so the ISP's will start to lose money..how long will it be before its lifted again? will the film/music companies reimburse the isp's for lost revenue..likely not....hmmm

[Keggy46]

I wonder if they'll start with google; many torrent url's in that engine.

 

I always was suspicious when Orange started to use DLM (digital line management) about 2 months ago. It's a hub infrastructure BT rents now to UK ISP's.

 

Since then, my IP changes daily and so the traffic monitoring begins in earnest.

 

They really will try to implement internet packages: £10 basic - google/yahoo. etc, £20 for MySpace/Facebook, then the creme de la creme £40 for vid sites like LiveLeak/YouTube.

 

Tim Berners Lee will be disgusted the way they are trying to commercialise the internet that was created as peer 2 peer in the first place.

[rinfrance]

I do wonder about these so called twits that say block the sites, I do believe that the only way to do it is to totally shut down the UK internet, all mobile phone access, all radio amateurs to name a few.

This judge has obviously a degree in opening mouth and shoving a size ten boot into his size eight mouth.

He is obviously not aware of things like openDNS, smart hide, to name a few.

Judge Prat go and do something you know about like having a brandy, and driving home ****ed!!!

[rinfrance]

Hi, do use Open DNS as this means that Orange, or here its France Telecom only can guess at what you are doing. see the website .opendns.com/ All computers and most modems can be configured. (I have to write it that way as this site blocks links.)

What this does is bypass the ISP's own monitored DNS in what I can only describe as a pipe. They cannot "see" what is going down the pipe, only know that its possibly music, live TV or whatever. They cannot therefore block, limit or otherwise tamper or add adverts. All they can do is suffer you contention, ie limiting your total throughput, or switch you off.

After I did some work for a "large modem constructor" FT or Orange spent months trying to "see" what I was doing, right up to a flood attack and attempting to "get into" my computer.

If you have orange and use a live box then they know exactly what you are doing, you have even popped a little proggy on your machine that says "Orange please come and see what I am doing".

All their staff have access to your emails if you use Orange or wanadoo etc. they even have the access codes to get a wifi link to your modem.

[nat8808]

Block pirate sites and suddenly everyone will be downgrading their ISP plans from super-fast unlimited downloads to basic packages.. i.e. massive revenue losses for the ISPs.

 

Surely many bit-torrent sites are there also providing good public services for sharing large files - even the government have released documents and large amounts of info using bit-torrent P2P filesharing networks!

 

just to cover my back here, I've not actually read the story so it may not be aimed at P2P services at all, only companies providing direct downloads... in which case none of the above applies.

[chazzo125]

Yawn! Set Non-UK DNS servers and/or use anonymous proxy servers. Really don't know why the courts bother:roll:

 

BT might just lose more than a few customers though!

[locutus]

BT (to give them their due) DID try to fight this.

 

Lets say the people who decided to ban downloading all copyrighted data succeeded. The way people who used to get illegal films would alter, they would buy them from some bloke on a car boot or in a pub who brought them in on a USB stick or on their laptop from Europe, and that would probably be with cigarettes and duty free booze. Remember the advert that said something about copied DVDs being linked to organized crime.... I think that would become true.

 

Now, in reality there is no way of them succeeding. It would require masses of computing power to analise all the data that went through the ISP's server, and this would also put a delay on people receiving their information, and online gaming would suffer so badly that it would cost gaming companies millions.

 

I do feel for indie software, music and film companies that literally cannot make a profit through people taking their product without paying, but censoring the internet is a slippery slope, and it's not too bad a problem thanks to companies like Steam (for games) and Itunes (and other online music download and sales sites) and indie movies can sell the rights to be broadcast straight to TV, low budget productions can still get revenue for their hard work. The people who this effects are the big budget games, the £200 million movies, the 4 big music labels (Universal, Sony, Warner and EMI) and they have factored in piracy effecting sales since the tape recorder and VCR came out.

[speedfreek]

No they wont.

 

If you want to know how to use the internet properly ask anybody who did computers pre DNS in the 90's, NERDS or your average 12 year old.

 

What most of us use and see is the information publicised to centralised public DNS servers. This they think is only 5% of what is actually connected to the internet.

 

In the old days we would by word of mouth be given an IP Address for a non public network. Go there and Bob your uncle &...

 

It's a bit like the drugs debate as if you ban all this you'll actually exposing your children to some quite frankly nasty nasty stuff.

 

Haven't bothered with it myself yet but know how to get there. Probably will soon as the internet via DNS is just rubbish and full of advertising so is no longer an useful tools for information any more.

 

I also know however after having 12-15 year old school placements forced on me (well except for the fact deodorant skills should be taught at school) that the 1st thing they try and do is slap on download managers and P2P file sharing stuff.

 

So you want to work in IT I said well.....