Parking tickeys on driveway - urgent

[tolade]

On the contrary, I'm trying to clarify the matter. It matters a lot, actually. Like I often say to my daughter - if you don't have anything constructive to say, don't bother.

 

please guys dont be upset...am sorry if i have messed things up from the start...

[tolade]

Hmmm I wonder where he parked.......maybe I'll ask??

 

we just parked in front of his house see how a car can park with a side on the car on the kerb ( but lowered since it is entrance to his driveway) and the other side on the road but no disruption. the yellow line is just underneath were we parked. l have been trying to upload the pcn but having trouble doing it.

 

please guys am very sorry lf i have messed things up from the beginning am just a confused person, i only have few days left.

 

please guys help me am so much in need.

[tolade]

Because if he was on the road, adjacent to the yellow line, the offence occured. If he was on the footpath, the offence occured (as you are not allowed to park on the footpath in London except where it is specifically signed to the contrary). If he was on private property, then no offence occured. That is why he and I asked.

 

So, wind your neck in and as advised, if you don't have anything useful to add, don't add!

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much, l dont know if this will help: we parked on the yellow line, but the yellow line is in front of his driveway (kerb dropped) which is lowered for his own entry. the property is hence private. please will this help you at all...thank you so much for all your replies...

 

please guys am runing ou tof time please help am so much in need

 

Thank you guys for your help.

Edited May 21, 2011 by tolade

[tolade]

Pls guys please help me i need to appeal on time please guide me through is there any template l can use to send the first message to them. Am so time restrained...l dont know what to do no am in a confused state. please guys guide me through...

 

Thank you all for al your support and replies....

[Jamberson]

You don't appear to have a case for appeal. You parked on a yellow line, while it is in force, and got a PCN.

 

You can either scour the area for missing signs etc and hope to find a technicality - or appeal on the basis of a genuine mistake. The latter may be your best bet, but you may lose the appeal anyway. Worth a try though.

[tolade]

Thank you Jamberson, l will surely visit the area tomrw, but pls in the mean time, do you have a template i can follow either for the fault one or for the mistake...please help me out. Things are very tight at the moment..

 

Thank you so much Jamberson

[tolade]

Please guys what info should a pcn contain...i tried uploading the ones i took with my phone but am havg a bit diffculty uploading it.

[Jamberson]

Copied from PenaltyChargeNotice.co.uk:

 

A penalty charge notice must state:

 

(i) the grounds on which the council or, as the case may be, Transport for London believe that the penalty charge is payable with respect to the vehicle;

(ii) the amount of the penalty charge which is payable and the currency.

(iii) that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice; (NOTE VERY SPECIFIC TEXT)

(iv) that if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of the notice, the amount of the penalty charge will be reduced by the specified proportion; (note very specific text)

(v) that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable;

(vi) the amount of the increased charge;

(vii) the address to which payment of the penalty charge must be sent; and

(viii) (a) that the person on whom the notice is served may be entitled to make representations under paragraph 1 of Schedule 1 to this Act; and (b) specify the form in which any such representations are to be made.

 

A penalty charge notice must also have both the date of the penalty charge notice and the date of the actual contravention even if both dates are the same. If it does not it is invalid.

It must also state how the video evidence against you can be viewed A case against the London borough of Harrow was upheld because the PCN did not “sufficiently explain the right to view evidence, I.E how to access the CCTV material” (see latest news section) This only applies to parking and bus lane pcn's but many councils offer the facility to view a video of the contravention in any event.

The PCN should state the statutory grounds of appeal and also that in addition to the statutory grounds that you can also refer to any other compelling reasons or mitigating circumstances why you think your PCN should be cancelled. In a case against the London Borough of Harrow the adjudicator ruled that the PCN should have referred to “compelling reasons”. The actual PCN stated “any other circumstances” and “mitigating circumstances” See the Harrow case in the news section for full details.

[tolade]

aww am so grateful Jamberson, this is what my pcn contains:

• pcn number
  
• date of service of this notice
  
• vehical registration number
  
• make
  
• colour
  
• tax disc number
  
• expiry date
  
• location
  
• contravention
  
• contravention code
  
• date of contravention
  
• observed from
  
• issued by CEO
  
• penalty charge
  
• a reduced cgarge
  

Please the above is the info i have on my pcn...is that what should be.

[green_and_mean]

Copied from PenaltyChargeNotice.co.uk:

 

A penalty charge notice must state:

 

(i) the grounds on which the council or, as the case may be, Transport for London believe that the penalty charge is payable with respect to the vehicle;

(ii) the amount of the penalty charge which is payable and the currency.

(iii) that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice; (NOTE VERY SPECIFIC TEXT)

(iv) that if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of the notice, the amount of the penalty charge will be reduced by the specified proportion; (note very specific text)

(v) that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable;

(vi) the amount of the increased charge;

(vii) the address to which payment of the penalty charge must be sent; and

(viii) (a) that the person on whom the notice is served may be entitled to make representations under paragraph 1 of Schedule 1 to this Act; and (b) specify the form in which any such representations are to be made.

 

A penalty charge notice must also have both the date of the penalty charge notice and the date of the actual contravention even if both dates are the same. If it does not it is invalid.

It must also state how the video evidence against you can be viewed A case against the London borough of Harrow was upheld because the PCN did not “sufficiently explain the right to view evidence, I.E how to access the CCTV material” (see latest news section) This only applies to parking and bus lane pcn's but many councils offer the facility to view a video of the contravention in any event.

The PCN should state the statutory grounds of appeal and also that in addition to the statutory grounds that you can also refer to any other compelling reasons or mitigating circumstances why you think your PCN should be cancelled. In a case against the London Borough of Harrow the adjudicator ruled that the PCN should have referred to “compelling reasons”. The actual PCN stated “any other circumstances” and “mitigating circumstances” See the Harrow case in the news section for full details.

 

The quote you used is actually wrong.

[green_and_mean]

1. A penalty charge notice served under regulation 9 must, in addition to the matters required to

be included in it by regulation 3(2) of the Representations and Appeals Regulations, state—

(a) the date on which the notice is served;

(b) the name of the enforcement authority;

© the registration mark of the vehicle involved in the alleged contravention;

(d) the date and the time at which the alleged contravention occurred;

(e) the grounds on which the civil enforcement officer serving the notice believes that a

penalty charge is payable;

(f) the amount of the penalty charge;

(g) that the penalty charge must be paid not later than the last day of the period of 28 days

beginning with the date on which the penalty charge notice was served;

(h) that if the penalty charge is paid not later than the last day of the period of 14 days beginning

with the date on which the notice is served, the penalty charge will be reduced by the

amount of any applicable discount;

(i) the manner in which the penalty charge must be paid; and

(j) that if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days referred to in

subparagraph (g), a notice to owner may be served by the enforcement authority on the

owner of the vehicle.

[tolade]

The PCN should state the statutory grounds of appeal and also that in addition to the statutory grounds that you can also refer to any other compelling reasons or mitigating circumstances why you think your PCN should be cancelled. In a case against the London Borough of Harrow the adjudicator ruled that the PCN should have referred to “compelling reasons”. The actual PCN stated “any other circumstances” and “mitigating circumstances” See the Harrow case in the news section for full details.

 

 

 

i really dont understand the 8a and b....

 

it does not state anything about the video evidence or pictures

 

with the above my pcn does not say anything like that, or is it optional?

[tolade]

Thank you so much Green_and_Mean,

 

yes i think iit contains all that you said. All the information are there on the pcn.

 

please what can i do now?

[Jamberson]

Thanks G&M.

[tolade]

Thank you guys am so grateful...please how do l appeal (post #30)

[Muffintop]

Oh bless, let us know how you got on.. for future, if you ever get a ticket, take lots of pictures of the area, the place your parked, the signs, the alleged line, if that line is faded or unclear due to perhaps lots of leaves or something you may not have realise it was there, just look for the clause. Worse case your just going to get a fine. Hope it works out not too bad.

[tolade]

Aww thank you Muffintop, yeah i guess that was a good idea. l just want to get out of this one as soon as i can. Thank you so much

[Muffintop]

Just thinking about post 30.. Mitagating circumstances.. worth a try.. was there an urgent reason why you had to park quickly outside your uncles house perhaps and didnt have time to take in the parking restrictions... I can think of some potential ones, may get you no where but if its all you have.

[tolade]

please l dont mind you giving me an assisitance with it. To be honest it wasnt the first time nor second time parking there but never see the restriction...all my thought was parking in front of his driveway.

[green_and_mean]

Thank you guys am so grateful...please how do l appeal (post #30)

 

Google still shows missing signs and if they are still missing this will add weight to any claims regarding mitigation. Personally I cannot see any Council cancelling just because you made a mistake most tickets after all are obtained due to some kind of driver error. If you find any CPZ signs missing I will gladly draft a letter but initially you will need to do the leg work yourself.

[tolade]

[tolade]

[tolade]

Hi guys i have visited the area today and this is what i can get with the pcn. Please will this help.

 

Thank you so much guys am so grateful.

[tolade]

With regard the parking bays marked out with white lines, can you tell me if there are double white lines at each end (next to the yellow line), or single white lines? It's hard to tell from the photos.

 

p.s by double white lines I mean like an equals sign =

 

 

Nope there is no double white lines or yellow lines nor single white line...all the whilte lines are dotted

[tolade]

sorry, I know they are dotted, but are they double dotted like this = = at the ends or single dotted like this - - ?

 

Thank you so much disgruntled2007....No they are all single dotted