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    • The last photo shows the overflow carpark looking at the block which our room was located. When we got out of the car my partner thought that the building was for staff accommodation.  The unsecured bedroom window opened onto this car park.
    • Also I see that you are doing a lot of this on the telephone – and without any written confirmation. This is a big mistake. You need to start taking this matter seriously and so everything should go in writing. If you have telephone calls then they should normally be recorded. Read our customer services guide. You should make notes about every telephone call and then you should send an email to your telephone correspondence confirming what they have said or what they have agreed. It is important that you keep detailed paper trails here. Of course we may be jumping the gun and maybe big motoring world will step up to the mark – but I'm afraid that they have a lousy reputation has you have seen and so you need to start practising survival techniques and protecting yourself. You say for instance in your letter of rejection that the mechanic told you on the telephone that the gearbox needed replacing. Do you have any other evidence of this conversation? This is going to sound a bit harsh – but other people will be visiting this thread as well for their own purposes. You conducted their research about this company before you bought the vehicle. You now are fully aware that this is a company which can be very difficult to deal with and causes a lot of problems for many of their customers and yet you are still taking a telephone/verbal approach. Do I need to say any more? Also one of the documents you put up is an email exchange but it is not clear who is writing to who or what dates. If you showed this email to somebody in a pub they would be asking lots of questions about who sent the first message, who sent the second message, what dates were they sent et cetera. Please think about this before you post things. Please can you clarify the details of that email exchange. Please will you present the information carefully. We are all volunteers here and we have to rely on you to do the spadework
    • I told the DM that the room was not acceptable because of the reasons already mentioned. He informed me that they were full that night and that they could move me to the room next door (would not solve my problem with the rooms location). Told the DM that I could not stay in the room provided for the night so left no option but to leave. DM did not reply and I walked out.   IMG_1475.pdf IMG_1476.pdf IMG_1477.pdf
    • Please will you upload your documents in PDF format in future. It is unhelpful to have them in word format and also word documents will carry personal details relating to you and your computer.
    • Thanks for letting us know that you had a conversation with someone – I sort of imagined that you might tell us what the conversation was – who said what to whom…
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Hi mc,

 

I know someone who has used them in the past and the report I got was not so good. She said they do the job, but take too much of a percentage for themselves. Most debt matters can be dealt with by yourself (although sometimes long winded) with the help of people on a site like this.

 

Have a browse around the debt forums and get to know people who may have a similar situation to yourself, or someone you may know.

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If all else fails, kick them where it hurts and SOD'EM;)

 

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I am using them. They quoted us £2700 for completion. Yes they are good but everytime I ask for a balance they go up and up. We have now paid them £3073. They are saying we have another £314 to end. I did go off on one at them but got no real answer back! Another compaint was that they never answer my questions in a letter I send them. I always end up having to ring them.

The reason we are using this kind of person is. They sort it out for you without the little men coming to the door + any letters I forward to them and they deal with it. Also my hubby suffers from accute stress. No other reason.

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Write to them demanding how they come to the figures they have. Tell them you want a complete breakdown of charges.

 

You could also send them a Subject Access Request and they will be obliged to send you (by law), everything they hold about you (including charges) on your account.

 

The down side to this is that you have to send them a cheque/postal order for £10 for this information. Sometimes it's well worth it though.

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If all else fails, kick them where it hurts and SOD'EM;)

 

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I echo Sod em-CAG does not support nor encourage using companies which charge fees and commission for things you could do yourself.

Have a happy and prosperous 2013 by avoiiding Payday loans. If you are sent a private message directing you for advice or support with your issues to another website,this is your choice.Before you decide,consider the users here who have already offered help and support.

Advice offered by Martin3030 is not supported by any legal training or qualification.Members are advised to use the services of fully insured legal professionals when needed.

 

 

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I'll move this thread to the debt self-help forum.

 

Why don't you try doing it yourself. We've found iMoneyManager and haven't heard anything bad about it so far

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Well Lou we did. Hubby mental health bad. Would have sent him over the edge to have people calling for money, taking no notice of your letters you reply + we have not got £1200 straight off to pay the court fee's. They saved it for us and dealt with our creditors!

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Morning. My sister has gone with this company. I’m now very worried about her, she got in touch with them in November 2012. Started her monthly payments in Dec 12. To date one of her debts has gone from 400.00 to 1200 and she is still getting letters not just from this creditor but all of them. And others have doubled.

They call her mobile and house line all hours of the night and day, sends her emails. She has even had men at the door telling her to pay up.

She is still paying SP Hayes in the hope that it will all stop. She basically went to them because she was on the verge of a breakdown. Since then She lost her job in January and is currently living on £50 per week.

I just hope they can hurry up and get this debt plan running smoothly as I thought the whole idea of these companies were to stop all the stress and help.

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Your sister should be sending all these bills to to Spencer Hayes for them to deal with. Once they have all these letters they will get in touch with your sisters creditors and stop the calls.

This is what we had to do.

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It takes quite a few months for things to quieten down when you use a DM company. As for post #7 different people do thiings differently. As for me I had 8 creditors, 3 children, a nasty ex and a mega full on job so I chose this route. Yes you can do it yourself and this site is great for that, but it isn't everyone's preferred method. We are not here to judge but to help. Your sister needs to call these people and find out exactly what's going on on the account. Have they now written to all of her creditors? With calls she should tell the caller that she has engaged the services of SH and as her authorised 3rd party representative they should contact them then put the phone down. Tell her to write the statement down and keep it by the phone to read off. She should NOT answer any security questions. Tell her to get/keep a copy of the income and expenditure that she did with them as they will want to do another in a year's time and she'll find it helpful to have to hand. When things a settled and she feels more in control she should then start the process of contacting all her creditors with a CCA request and go from there. She should also consider handling things herself perhaps with your help when she is in a better place?

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Any DMP that charges a fee should be avoided, they don't do anything for the money they fleece off you.

 

As for random strangers calling at peoples private property demanding money, they have NO LEGAL powers to do this, and can be sent packing or face arrest if they fail to leave.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Hi Boo, this is not necessarily true. Yes, they have to be managed tightly; but in my case it was managing one person as opposed to 8 or 9. Yes they charge a fee that could be going to your creditors - hence MUCH better to use the free providers if you can. BUT these providers do not work in every situation. This is a self help site. You should read as many threads that reflect your circumstances and make decisions as to how to handle things that suit your circumstances. Knowledge is power, this site gives you power. One size does not fit all!

As for me a renegotiated the fee I was paying substantially down after a few years. I have now conducted F&Fs with all bar one of my creditors that I did myself not via the DMP. One remains outstanding and will no doubt rear its head eventually and I will use the knowledge gained from people's experiences to handle it when it does. Its a huge relief to be through the worst of this - whatever it takes and however the journey.

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