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    • Couldn't agree more, really wanted a true ruling on this just for the knowledge but pretty sure the Judge made some decisions today that he didn't need to?.. maybe they all go this way on the day? We hear back so few post court dates I'm not sure. Each Judge has some level of discretion. Their sol was another Junior not even working at their Firm, so couldn't speak directly for them! that was fortunate I think because if she would have rejected in court better, she might have  been able to force ruling, we are at that point!, everybody there!!, Judge basically said openly that he can see everything for Judgement!!!  but she just said "I can speak to the claimant and find out!" - creating the opportunity for me to accept. I really think the Judge did me a favor today by saying it without saying it. Knowing the rep for the sol couldn't really speak to the idea in the moment. Been to court twice in a fortnight, on both occasions heard 4 times with others and both of my claims, the clerk mention to one or both parties "Letting the Judge know if you want to have a quick chat with each other"! So, it appears there's an expectation of the court that there is one last attempt at settling before going through the door. So, not a Sol tactic, just Court process!. Judge was not happy we hadn't tried to settle outside! We couldn't because she went to the loo and the Judge called us in 10 minutes early! - another reason to stand down to allow that conv to happen. Stars aligned there for me I think. But yeh, if the sol themselves, or someone who can make decisions on the case were in court, I would have received a Judgement against today I think. She was an 'advocate'.. if I recall her intro to me correctly.. So verbal arguments can throw spanners in Court because Plinks dogs outsource their work and send a Junior advocate.
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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
    • Seeking further advice now. The 33 days in which the defendant has to submit a defence expires at 16:00 tomorrow. The defendant has submitted an acknowledgement of service but looking to get the claim awarded by default in failure to submit the defence. This is MoneyClaim Online and can see an option to request a default judgement but believe that is for failure to acknowledge the claim within 14 days??  So being MoneyClaim Online, how do I request the claim be awarded in my favour?
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Hi,

Just a quick background into my history with very/littlewoods.

I have used them for a few years with no real problems.

I orderd a laptop in summer 2008 on BNPL. Pament was due summer 2009... they hadnt started adding the full interest to the item then and it just got stuck on take 3... 3 months to pay with no interest.

 

A friend needed a new washing machine and i looked on very as he lets me use my quidco if i can find him a good deal. So I orderd the washing machine advertised at £399 + £25 delivery. He paid the money into my general account which cleared my laptop and stopped me getting interest for the next year.

When i looked at the order i noticed it was on my statement for £499. So i phoned them and they made me aware they changed their policy and the item would incure interest if the full payment was not made by september 2010. They told me the extra £100 was this interest and would disapear when i settled.

 

Now it's within a few months of needing to be paid I phoned up to check that I would only need to pay the £399. But Very are insisting the cash price is £499 and they have no record of it ever being sold at £399. They do have records of my query on the price, and what was discussed but their systems are insisting it's £499, so thats what i'm required to pay.

 

The only other evidence I have to hand is that the order was tracked through quidco for £399. I have sent quidco an email explaining and requesting any information on the transaction they hold.

 

To make matters worse... the description of the washing machine said I would get a 1600 speed model (the higher up one) as there was no stock. So this is why i orderd it with them. They sent the 1400 speed and totaly denied that it ever said that(same way they deny the washing machine was ever £399).

 

Now it would be handy as seen as they have totaly screwed me if i could freeze the account and pay it back on my terms as I could do with the money for a holiday I have coming up.

 

I presume they have breached a few things here, and have misshadled my account, and lied to me.

 

But what can i do about it? If they have breached their credit agreement in any way can i get them to close the account and have it investigated without being able to add any interest to it?

 

Or could I claim the information is totaly wrong for the washing machine and get it removed from my account without having to pay?? hehe last one would be nice!

 

Cheers

 

 

Dave

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If you go into your account history you can see all your previous purchases, along with the price. I have just had a look on my very account and i can go right back to June 2009 which is when i first bought from them.

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