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    • Here's a suggested modified version for consideration by the team. (Not sure whether it still gives too much away?)   RE: PCN 4xxxxx Dear ALLIANCE PARKING Litigation Dept, Thank you for your dubious Letter Of Claim (dated 29th April 2024) of £100 for just 2 minutes of overstay. The family rolled around on the floor in amazement of the idea you actually think they’d accept this nonsense, let alone being confused over the extra unlawful £70 you added. Shall we raise the related VAT issue with HMRC, or perhaps the custodians of the unicorn grain silos? Apart from the serious GDPR breach you’ve made with the DVLA and your complete failure in identifying the driver, we’re dumbfounded that the PCN is still not compliant with the PoFA (2012 Schedule 4 Under Section 9.2.f) even after 12 years of pathetic trial and error. We also doubt a judge would be very impressed at your bone idleness and lack of due diligence regarding parking periods. Especially with no consideration of section 13 in your own trade association's code of practice and the topological nature of the Cornish landscape versus a traditional multi-storey. And don’t even get us started on the invisible signage during the ultra busy bank holiday carnage, that is otherwise known as the random parking chaos in the several unmarked, unmanaged over-spill fields, or indeed the tedious “frustration of contract” attempting to get a data connection to Justpark.  We suggest your clients drop this extreme foolishness or get an absolute hammering in court. We are more than ready to raise the above issues and more, with a fair minded judge, who will most likely laugh your clients out in less time than it takes to capture a couple of useless ANPR photos. If you insist on continuing this stupid, money grabbing quest, after having all of the above pointed out, we will of course show this letter to the Judge and request “an unreasonable costs order” under CPR 27.14.2.g and put it toward future taxis to Harlyn Bay instead.  We all look forward to your clients' deafening silence. Signed, "Spot". (Vehicle Keeper's pet Dalmation).
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Hi All,

 

Almost 2 years ago, my wife purchased a Vauxhall Meriva 1.6. During the test drive I voiced my concern with the salesman that it didn't feel like it had any power. He explained that he thought it was strange as it was the injection model. He then said he'd get one of the technicians to take a look and when we picked it up all would be fine. Anyway we signed all the paperwork and we picked the car up.

 

Fast forward to today, the car has been out of action for around 8 months with an engine problem, but not had the money to get it fixed. So while I had some spare time I decided to take a brief look myself (little engine exp.)with a neighbour (ex. mechanic). Anyway, so we opened the bonnet and started work. All of a sudden my neighbour stops and says that he hasn't seen a carburetor in years, at which point I explain that the car is injection. He decides to correct me, which then leads me to look at my paperwork which states that I was sold a 1.6 injection.

 

So my question is, is there anything I can do about the fact I've been sold a different 'type' of car to the one on my paperwork? I've done a brief history check on the meriva and they did sell an injection and a non-injection model. I bought the car from a Vauxhall dealership as well as an ex-demo.

 

Our plan is to get to the car fixed and hand it back under the finance agreement

 

Thanks in Advance

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Yes there is plenty you can do as you are covered agains mis-selling for 6 years.

 

Try and price the difference in the model you have and the one you thought you were getting and ask for the difference in price from the dealer that sold it to you. Do this before you hand it back and get yourself some pennies in your pocket.

 

Who was the dealer?

 

I take it the car is on HP seeing as you want to hand it back, is that correct?

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It wasn't mis-sold - just mis-described verbally. If all you are relying on is what the salesman said to you (not your invoice or car paperwork/manual) then your room to claim is limited. Two years is a heck of a long time to discover you have a different model, 2 months would be about the limit, and during this period you would be expected to ensure the car did what it was supposed to do (in your understanding) and if it didn't - raise these concerns at this time. Coniff is assuming you can get an admission that you were promised by the salesman, was this witnessed?

 

This late in the game, you would be deemed to have accepted it as it stood, and simply appear at you trying to get out of your finance deal and using this as an excuse (and even assuming you do wish to do this, you will be financially disadvantaged anyway. You will not get your money back.

 

I'm aware of other (similar) claims - supposed ABS, Anti-Skid - features verbally 'promised' by the salesman that were not in place for that model. The cut-off for claims was around 6 months, not open-ended.

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It was misdescribed, so subsequently missold.

 

which then leads me to look at my paperwork which states that I was sold a 1.6 injection.

 

So there is paperwork in his favour.

 

The 2 months is the reasonable time limit on a rejection (although it can be at any time if a judge decides there is a case). I would say that ABS etc; is a bit lower down the scale than an injection v carb, this makes it a completely different car, and because of the anomoly in vehicle reg dates, a different model.

 

This is a man (likes lots of others) whose limited knowledge of cars was taken advantage of.

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Unfortunately, if the purchaser is not competent to be aware of deficiencies of their purchase, this still does not keep the 'door open' for a subsequent rejection. Being 'taken advantage of' is also often called 'salesmanship'. Without proof of the claim, it becomes one word against another. Fortunately, with the paperwork confirming it was an injection model, this helps - but not much. It does not invalidate the sale, simply the price paid. In similar situations the dealership only has to recalculate the vehicle sale price to that of the correct version which could be a difference of just £200 on a s/h vehicle. If the dealership pays the difference for their 'error' it will be seen as a goodwill gesture, and any other issues raised this late in the day (in which the car has done what it was supposed to do sans injectors).

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Thanks for advice Conniff and Buzby. I'll gather all the evidence I've got of it being a injection and approach the dealer.

 

I've got nothing to lose so might as well try

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