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    • Good morning,    I just wanted to update you on the situation.    I have visits piling up with my current employment and they need doing before I finish at the end of this month.  I am moving to Wiltshire in 3 weeks for a new job helping care homes with their Dementia patients. I tried to work it out and at a guess I will be doing about 20-25,000 miles a year. So need a vehicle that can cope with that mileage, my old car would have done it easy but 🤷‍♂️ I have taken out a loan and got a friend to find me a reliable car that can cope with the miles and hasn't been written off in the past.   I phoned Adrian flux to see if I could use the last months insurance on a new car I have bought, the girl I spoke to phoned Markerstudy and asked them but they said no, my new car doesn't have any modifications.    I had an email from someone who saw one of my appeals for information, they live near the site of the accident and know a nearby farmer who has a security camera at his entrance that catches the traffic and specifically registration plates as he has been robbed before. They said they would reach out for me and see if he still has the data. Unfortunately it wont catch the scene of the crash.   The Police phoned me and said they were closing the report I made, even if they found footage of the vehicle at the time I said the actual incident would be my word vs theirs.  My first response was I am sure google maps would show that they turned around at that location which would verify my version of events, but upon reflection I do understand, I have seen people doing make up with both hands while driving, eating from a bowl steering with their knees and veering all over the place. I am sure some of these people go off the road and claim that someone forced them off.    Markerstudy phoned me yesterday to say that my car is now at Copart, the £80 tank of Vpower diesel was emptied on entry to the site for safety reasons, which I get but it sucks.  It is awaiting being assessed and shouldn't be too long, which is a relief.  I am really glad things do not seem to be going the way of the other stories and they seem to moving quickly.   However I was informed that my car was a structural write off before I bought it - this destroyed me, I was almost sick.  and this is going to affect any offer of money - after hearing the first statement this didn't affect me.   They need to wait for the assessor to check it over but it is highly likely to be written off and the maximum they can offer is £2300.  I was desperate for a car as I was working for an agency at the time, no work no pay, and did not do a vehicle check because I didn't know about them.  The seller did not tell me that it had been structurally written off, he told me that it had the front wing damaged while parked and was repaired at an approved repairer.  Markerstudy records state that it was sold at auction, no record of repair at an approved repairer.  I bought it bank transfer with hand written receipt.    It gets worse.    It turns out my airbags should of gone off. For some reason they are not working. I think we can figure out why.  If I had hit that car head on and had no airbags.    Some good news.    I can arrange a time with Copart to go and take my stereo equipment and any personal items that are left in the car only. I cant live without music and need quality sound, my speakers and amps are Hertz and JLaudio, (no I am not a boy racer with booming subs, I am an audiophile on a budget) I was really worried I wouldn't get them back so this is a huge relief for me. It is stuff I have built up over years of saving and collecting. Everything to do with the vehicle and mods I have declared need to stay to be assessed.   The accident has gone as a fault on my record, I have to remove 2 years NCB which means I still have some to declare which is good.  So it appears at this point that it may be resolved quickly, not in the way I was hoping, but not as bad as I presumed it was going to be based upon that tow truck drivers attitude and behaviour and the horror stories I read.   I am not going to buy the car back and try to make money with all the parts on it, I don't have the time or energy.   I may need an xray on my back and neck.  The whole situation has left me feeling physically sick, drained and I need it done.   The lesson learnt from this  -  My conscience is 100% clear, my attitude to safety and strong sense of personal responsibility - A rated tyres even if on credit card, brake fluid flush every year, regular checks of pads and discs, bushes etc, made avoiding what I believed to be a certain broadside collision possible.   Get a dashcam (searching now for the best I can afford at the moment)  -  Research your insurance company before you buy  -  Pay for total car check before you go and see a car and take someone with you if you are not confident in your ability to assess a vehicle.      Thank you to everyone here who volunteers their time, energy and information, it is greatly appreciated.  You helped my sister with some advice a while ago but we weren't able to follow through, she is struggling with long term health conditions and I ended up in hospital for a while with myocarditis, when I got out and remembered it was too late.  I am going to make a donation now, it is not a lot, I wish I could give more, I will try to come back when things are on a more even keel.    Take care
    • It seems the solicitor has got your case listed for this “appeal” but not for the Stat Dec(SD). You need to ensure you can perform your SD on the day. If you are able to make your SD in court, the situation you are in now is more straightforward than if you made your SD via a solicitor. You have been convicted of two offences (and two were dropped) via proceedings of which you were not aware. The way to remedy that is to perform an SD. No appeal is necessary (nor is it available via the magistrates’ court). If you are able to make your SD this is how I see it panning out: You will make your SD to the court. The court must allow you to make it as it will have been made within 21 days of you discovering your convictions. You will then be asked to enter pleas to the four charges again. At this point you should plead not guilty to all four but make the court aware that you will plead guilty to the speeding charges on the condition that the FtP charges are dropped. The prosecutor will be asked whether or not this is agreed. In my opinion the overwhelming likelihood is that it will be. If it is you will be sentenced for the two speeding offences under the normal guidelines. In the unlikely event it is not accepted,  the speeding charges will be withdrawn (they have no evidence you were driving). You have no viable defence to the FtP charges and so should plead guilty. This will mean 12 points and a “totting up” ban (as you have already suffered). You can present an “Exceptional Hardship” argument to try to avoid this (explained below).   Because of this, I don’t see any need to make an argument to ask to have any ban suspended (pending an appeal to the Crown Court) unless and until you are banned again. The only reason I can think the solicitor suggested this is to secure a (Magistrates')  court date. I was surprised when you said you had an appointment so quickly; a date for an SD usually takes longer than that. However, if you can use it to your advantage, all well and good. I can’t comment on the argument that the two speeding offences were committed “on the same occasion” as I don’t have the details. That phrase is not defined anywhere and is a matter for the court to decide. It’s an interesting thought (and only that) that such an argument could equally be made for the two FtP offences. If the requests for driver’s details arrived at your old address at the same time, with the same deadline for reply, it could be argued that you failed to respond to them both “on the same occasion” (i.e when the 28 days to respond expired) and so should only receive penalty points for one. Hopefully you won’t need to go there. I think you have information about avoiding a “totting up” ban. But here’s the magistrates’ latest guidance on "Exceptional Hardship" (EH) which they refer to: When considering whether there are grounds to reduce or avoid a totting up disqualification the court should have regard to the following: It is for the offender to prove to the civil standard of proof that such grounds exist. Other than very exceptionally, this will require evidence from the offender, and where such evidence is given, it must be sworn. Where it is asserted that hardship would be caused, the court must be satisfied that it is not merely inconvenience, or hardship, but exceptional hardship for which the court must have evidence; Almost every disqualification entails hardship for the person disqualified and their immediate family. This is part of the deterrent objective of the provisions combined with the preventative effect of the order not to drive. If a motorist continues to offend after becoming aware of the risk to their licence of further penalty points, the court can take this circumstance into account. Courts should be cautious before accepting assertions of exceptional hardship without evidence that alternatives (including alternative means of transport) for avoiding exceptional hardship are not viable; Loss of employment will be an inevitable consequence of a driving ban for many people. Evidence that loss of employment would follow from disqualification is not in itself sufficient to demonstrate exceptional hardship; whether or not it does will depend on the circumstances of the offender and the consequences of that loss of employment on the offender and/or others. I must say, I still do not understand what the solicitor means by “As a safeguard we have lodged the appeal and applied to suspend your ban pending appeal due to the time limit for being able to automatically appeal without getting leave of the Judge.” When they speak of “leave of the judge” I assume they mean they have lodged an appeal with the Crown Court. I don’t know what for or why they would do this. It seems to follow on from their explanation of the “totting up” ban. If so, I’m surprised that the Crown Court has accepted an appeal against something that has not yet happened. But as I said, i is no clear to me. Only you can decide whether to employ your solicitor to represent you in court. If it was me I would not because there is nothing he can say that you cannot say yourself. However, I am fairly knowledgeable of the process and confident I can deal with it. That said, I do have a feeling that the solicitor is somewhat “over egging the pudding” by introducing such things as appeals to the Crown Court which, in all honesty, you can deal with if they are required. I can only say that the process you will attempt to employ is by no means unusual and all court users will be familiar with it. I can also say that I have only ever heard of one instance where it was refused. In summary, it is my view that it is very unlikely that your offer to do the deal will be refused. If it is accepted, you may be able to persuade he court that the two speeding offences occurred "on the same occasion" and so should only receive one lot of points. Let me know the details (timings, places, etc) and I'll give you my opinion. Just in case your offer is refused, you should have your EH argument ready. Whether it's worth paying what will amount to many hundreds of pounds to pay someone to see this through is your call.  Let me know if I can help further.    
    • This must be part of the new tactic from Evri.  They know they are going to lose. They take it to the wire and then don't bother to turn up in order to save themselves costs and of course they don't give a damn about the cost to the British taxpayer and the extra court delays they cause. This is a nasty dishonest company – but rather in line with all of the parcel delivery industry which knows that their insurance requirements are unlawful. They know that their prohibited items are for the most part unfair terms. They know for the most part that a "safe place" is exactly what it means – are not left on somebody's doorstep in full view. They know that obtaining a signature means that they have to show the signature not simply claim that they received a signature. They are making huge profits especially from their unlawful and unenforceable insurance requirement. Although this is less valuable than the PPI scandal, in terms of the number of people who are affected nationwide, PPI pales into insignificance. I hope the paralegals working for Evri are proud of themselves and they tell their families what they have done during the day when they go home.
    • Your PCN does not comply with the Protection of freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9[2][a] (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The only time on the PCN is 17.14. That is only  a time for there to be a period there would have to be a start and and end time mentioned. of course they do show the ANPR arrival and departures  times but that is not the parking period and their times are on the photographs not on the PCN. They also failed to comply with S.9[2][f] as they omitted to say that they could only pursue the keeper if they complied with the Act. That means that they can only pursue the driver as the keeper cannot be held liable for the charge. As they do not know who was driving and Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person they will struggle to win. Especially as so many people are able to legally drive your car and you haven't appealed giving them no indication therefore of who was driving. Small nitpicking point-the date of Infringement was 22/04/2024. They appear to be saying that they can charge an extra amount [up to £70 ] if they have to use a debt collector. You do not have a contract with a debt collector so they cannot add that cost. You paid for four hours so it can only be the 15 minutes they are complaining about. You are entitled to a ten minute minimum grace period at the end of the parking period which would be easier to explain if the car park had been bigger. However if you allow for two minutes to park and two minutes to leave that gives you one minute to account for. Things like being held on the way out by cars in front waiting to get on to Northgate or even your own car being held up trying to get on to Northgate at a busy time. then other considerations like having to stop to allow pedestrians to walk in front of you or being held up by another car doing a u turn in front of your car. you would have to check with the driver and see if they could account for an extra one minute things like a disabled passenger or having to strap in a child . I am not advocating lying since that could lead to serious problems [like jail time] but there can be an awful lot of minor things that can cause a hold up of a minute even the engine not starting straight away or another car being badly parked as examples. Sadly you cannot include the 5 minute Consideration period as both IPC and BPA fail to comply with the convention that you can include that time with the Grace period.  
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Thanks, Andy.

 

I've added in about the acknowledgement and the court not notifying me.

 

I wanted to highlight that the 'agreement' they have sent isn't actually an enforceable (and a legible) agreement.

 

I will look over other defences again and revise the one I have.

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The defence can be redrafted to cover that but in away that it implies and is considered that they are still in default of your section 78...for reasons xyz.

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Yes you do but it needs further clarification and softening...the date of your agreement (is it pre 2007 or post?)...the fact that they have responded with a reconstituted version...

 

They are arguments for a fuller particularised defence should the set a side be allowed.....

 

Look ...if you can quote the reasons why an agreement is deficient quoting the CCA1974 and amendments and why default notices are invalid then a court will not understand why you cant follow the process of submitting a defence on time......you cant plead litigant in person with no knowledge and then hit them with the technicalities of the CCA1974...your either a novice or expert...cant be both.

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REVISED Statement of EV

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1. I am a Litigant in Person and was unaware of legal proceedings/process, but have now taken advice.

 

2. I acknowledged service of the claim on 12th December 2013. Around the time of the claim, I was coping with the recent death of my father, which occurred quite suddenly. At the time of the claim, and resulting communication, there were the deceased’s estate matter to deal with and this overwhelmed my time and energy. Therefore, I did not consciously keeping track of the proceedings.

 

3. In December 2013, I requested, under CPR 31.14 for the disclosure and production of a verified and legible copy of: the original agreement under sections 77/78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, notice of assignment, the default notice, and statement of account. The claimant has failed to comply.

 

4. In a letter dated 20th December 2013, the Claimant requested more time stating “We are taking our client’s instructions in relation to your account and confirm we have requested the documents”. And “…our client agrees to a time extension of one month.” I did not suggest any such extension.

 

5. I did not receive any notification of the judgment. I became aware of the judgement on checking my credit file in late July and through a hand delivered notification by a bailiff from Accrington County Court in August.

 

6. Therefore, I request that the Court, in the interests of justice, sets aside the judgement, makes an order for the Claimant to produce the aforementioned documents relied on in its claim, and allows me to file a defence.

 

 

 

 

REVISED DEFENCE

 

1. The Claimant is relying on a reconstituted agreement that is not legible. It is not considered to be a true copy of the agreement nor the terms and conditions provided at the time of signing the agreement in 2000.Whilst this may be considered acceptable as complying with section 78, the claimant will have to disclose the original should it wish to enforce or request relief as the agreement is pre April 2007.

 

2. The Claimant shows charges relating to late penalty fees of £12. However, a copy statement of the account shows payment fees in June 2006 as £20.

 

3. From a Data Subject Access Request by the Defendant in 2010, to the original creditor, HSBC, a summary report states that [03/02/2010]: “A/c opened 07/09/00;agreement not found. Stmnts…”

 

4. I deny having received a default notice in 2006 for this debt.

 

5. I request the Claimant be ordered to produce a legible, true copy of the agreement in relation to my request under CPR 31.14.

 

 

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Back from the hearing.

 

The judge is making an order to set aside the judgment (13.3 CPR) and remove the attachment of earnings order, provided I submit a copy of a full defence in two weeks time. (This needs to include all points, including the legal and factual basis, and everything enclosed; if not, the judgment will stand.)

 

He also ordered me to pay the costs for the attendance of the other party's solicitor (£120), as while I may have applied for the set aside within a reasonable amount of time when I became aware of judgment they did have to attend the hearing.

 

The judge didn't allow the other side to bring in HSBC v Carey because it wasn't mentioned in the WS by them, and he also told me sternly that I should have submitted my statement and defence before the morning of the hearing. And, that my documents needed to comply with CPR 22, which this one did not.

 

He also asked what I meant by irregular judgment in my set aside application. He noted that my explanation might not be what a solicitor or legal professional might presume.

 

So, I'll be looking at this all the middle of next week and putting together things for submission. Hopefully, Andy et al. can look over things when I have them together.

 

Thank you for your help so far.

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Very good zingy...so far so good.:-)

 

CPR 22 means you failed to sign it off with a statement of truth...and as already discussed it should have been served at least 3 days prior even though you wasnt ordered to submit any WS.

 

Well done

 

 

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I've gone over the defence and added in a few things.

 

Posted as a PDF with certain information removed (not in original, obv.).

 

Just wondering if I should add in any other legal stuff?

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Well I like it :) However, I will leave a note for andyorch to pop in, zingy.. it might be best to wait for his seal of approval.

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Very good Zingy...just change unreadable to Illegible:wink:

 

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Okay. An update on this. Filled in a questionnaire for this case around New Year and received an order from the Court about a hearing the end of April.

 

 

 

Having considered the papers in your case, the court believes that your case is suitable for mediation. This is a very simple process designed to give you the opportunity to resolve your dispute without having to attend a court hearing. You are therefore encouraged to contact the Small Claims Mediation Service to arrange a mediation appointment.

 

The mediation service is free.

 

Mediation appointments are conducted by telephone and so do not involve you having to attend court. The mediation appointment is limited to one hour, is confidential and can be done anytime up to ten working days before the final hearing. Further information on mediation is contained in the attached information sheet or can be found at www.gov.uk.

 

To accept the offer of this service and arrange your mediation appointment both parties should contact HMCTS by telephone on 01604 795511or email at scmreferrals@ hmcts.gsi.gov.uk within 7 days of receipt of this order. If you contact the Small Claims Mediation Service by email please ensure you include a return telephone number, and the case number.

 

Please note that if you wish to undertake mediation, you must contact the Small Claims Mediation Service.

 

If both parties confirm they wish to undertake mediation, the Small Claims Mediation Service will contact you to arrange an appointment.

If you require any further information about mediation please contact the Small Claims Mediation Service by email at scmenquiries@ hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.

Warning: you must comply with the terms imposed upon you by this order: otherwise your case is liable to be struck out or some other sanction imposed. If you cannot comply you are expected to make formal application to the court before any deadline imposed upon you expires.

 

On xx January 2015, District Judge xxx sitting at xxx considered the papers in the case and ordered that:

l) This Claim is allocated to the Small Claims Track and the parties are referred to Part 27 of the Civil Procedure Rules and the Practice Direction of that Part for guidance on how the hearing of the claim will be conducted.

 

2) The claim will be heard at xxx on the xx April 2015 and should take no longer than 2 hours. A hearing fee off £335 is payable by xx March 2015 by the claimant unless you make an application for a fee concession. Failure to pay the fee will result in the hearing being removed from the list. The court must be informed immediatety if the case is settled by agreement before the hearing date. The hearing fee will be refunded in full if the court receives notice in writing at least 7 days before the hearing date, that the case is settled or discontinued. The Court reserves the right to change the place and./or time of the hearing.

 

3) From the available papers, it is estimated that the hearing will take two hours. If a party is aware of a reason why this estimate might be substantially inaccurate, that party must notify the court immediately.

 

4) The parties are encouraged always to try to settle the case by negotiation. The parties are encouraged to contact each other with a view to trying to settle the case or narrow the issues. The court must be informed immediately if the case is settled.

 

5) The following paragraphs set out the Judge's directions for preparation for the hearing. Failure to comply with the directions may result in the case having to be adjourned and the party at fault having to pay costs.

 

The following Directions apply to this Claim:

6) Each party must deliver to the other party and to the court office copies of all documents on which that party intends to rely at the hearing no later than fourteen days before the hearing.

 

7) The original documents must be brought to the hearing.

 

8) The judge may refuse to consider a document or take it into account if a copy of it has not been sent to the other party as required by this Order.

 

9) The documents to be sent to the other party and the court must include the statements of all witnesses

(including the parties themselves).

 

10) Witness statements must:

a) Start with the name of the case and the claim number:

b) State the full name and address of the witness;

c) Set out the witness's evidence clearly in numbered paragraphs on numbered pages;

d) End with this paragraph: 'I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true.' (or words to that effect); and

e) be signed by the witness and dated.

 

ll) The judge may refuse to hear the evidence or consider any statement of any witness whose statement has not been prepared and copied to the other party and the court in accordance with the paragraphs ahove.

 

12) Neither party may rely at the hearing on any report from an expert unless permission has been granted by the court beforehand. Anyone wishing to rely on an expert must write to the court immediately on receipt of this Order and seek permission, giving an explanation why the assistance of an expert is necessary.

If any party wishes to rely at the hearing on evidence in an electronic form, such as a video tape, audio tape,

DVD or CD, he/she should:

 

l. Serve a copy on the other party at the same time as copy documents are served as ordered and be accompanied by instructions on it may be viewed or listened to;

 

2. Within 7 days of receipt of this notice, inform the court in writing that electronic evidence is to be relied on and in what form;

 

3. At the hearing, provide whatever equipment is required to view and/or listen to the evidence. (Although by prior arrangement the court may be able to provide equipment to view a video tape, any such arrangement must be confirmed by the court office in writing).

 

 

 

I've contacted the mediation service as it seems the Judge is kinda pushing that way, and I guess I'm going to have to get ready for sending the Court docs

that I'm relying on 14 days before the hearing date.

 

Also, the CCJ hasn't been removed from my credit file.

 

 

I'm guessing I contact the Court to ask the reason why as the judge did say it should be removed after I sent in my revised defence, which I did.

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You need to query with the court as to why its still showing in view of the set a side zingy.

 

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You need to query with the court as to why its still showing in view of the set a side zingy.

 

Andy

 

All done the other week and it's showing as not there when my credit report updated.

 

Have a quick question with the mediation thing. Do I have to do it and do you have any advice with it? (I've spoken to them already and said I'll get back with dates etc as I know what the claimant can do.)

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With regards to mediation zingy

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?433406-Alternative-Dispute-Resolution-(Mediation)

 

The court expects all parties to participate in ADR...very rare its ever successful..but do it.

 

Then refer back to your post above #65...in particular for you to check and comply.....

 

 

2) The claim will be heard at xxx on the xx April 2015 and should take no longer than 2 hours. A hearing fee off £335 is payable by xx March 2015 by the claimant unless you make an application for a fee concession. Failure to pay the fee will result in the hearing being removed from the list. The court must be informed immediatety if the case is settled by agreement before the hearing date. The hearing fee will be refunded in full if the court receives notice in writing at least 7 days before the hearing date, that the case is settled or discontinued. The Court reserves the right to change the place and./or time of the hearing.

 

3) From the available papers, it is estimated that the hearing will take two hours. If a party is aware of a reason why this estimate might be substantially inaccurate, that party must notify the court immediately.

 

4) The parties are encouraged always to try to settle the case by negotiation. The parties are encouraged to contact each other with a view to trying to settle the case or narrow the issues. The court must be informed immediately if the case is settled.

 

5) The following paragraphs set out the Judge's directions for preparation for the hearing. Failure to comply with the directions may result in the case having to be adjourned and the party at fault having to pay costs.

 

The following Directions apply to this Claim:

6) Each party must deliver to the other party and to the court office copies of all documents on which that party intends to rely at the hearing no later than fourteen days before the hearing.

 

7) The original documents must be brought to the hearing.

 

8) The judge may refuse to consider a document or take it into account if a copy of it has not been sent to the other party as required by this Order.

 

9) The documents to be sent to the other party and the court must include the statements of all witnesses

(including the parties themselves).

 

10) Witness statements must:

a) Start with the name of the case and the claim number:

b) State the full name and address of the witness;

c) Set out the witness's evidence clearly in numbered paragraphs on numbered pages;

d) End with this paragraph: 'I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true.' (or words to that effect); and

e) be signed by the witness and dated.

 

Dont miss a date...

 

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Thanks, Andy.

 

I will give them a call and arrange an appointment then.

 

How does the mediation affect the hearing? Does the judge get any information on it? Just wondering, after read a bit on it, how I can put myself in the best possible position for the hearing.

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Mediation is a separate issue and has no connection to the trial...unless its successful and halts the claim.

 

Good preparation...research is the only way to prepare for an hearing....but your next task is to follow the directions to the dot.....still time for them to discontinue yet.

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Thanks, Andy.

 

Yeah, this week I'll be reading lots.

 

For anyone keeping up with this thread, mediation is done 'without prejudice', so nothing discussed there can be used by either party in the proceedings.

 

Here's to them discontinuing, but have blocked off the hearing time in my diary :wink:

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Andy,

 

Can you mark this thread as settled.

 

I had mediation today and decided to go in with an offer of around 20% of the original amount owed (to the OC) payable over monthly installments of 4 years and not budge. (I was fully aware that the account hadn't had interest added to it for years before sale and I had already claimed PPI etc, so I wasn't settling on an over-inflated amount.)

 

They tried to do some arguments, but I said I wasn't budging and it was my one and final offer.

 

They accepted and all has been agreed. (I know that they did 'cos they know it's completely unenforceable. No niavety here.)

 

The reason I didn't want to be awkward (and proceed to trial; they didn't have the org agreement but did try to bluff that they did have. Saying "We received new paperwork on Tuesday". What utter BS.) was that I'm not always at my home address (work away quite a bit: out of the country) and I didn't want this claim to be dismissed for another DCA to pick it up and issue a claim form that then leads to a CCJ in default etc.

 

I might have to pay something towards this, but I'm happy with the outcome. At least it's all 'over with' and can forget about it now.

 

>>> I'm kinda old school and think that while a lot of the amount is interest, paying back a significantly smaller amount of the original amount (without inflated compound interest) is what should be done. I know some wouldn't agree, but hey.

Such as shame. I was looking forward to going back to Court.:lol:

 

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Thank you to everyone for their input and time. I'll be sticking around and helping where I can.

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Done zingy:wink:

 

Regards

 

Andy

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