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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi Everyone, This is my first time replying to this forum. I am one of the hundreds of silent students thats reading the events of whats gone on.

 

I started Advent Training Sept 2008 to do the full MCSE with CISCO CCNA. I paid over £6000 in 12 monthly payments to Anglo Capital Ltd PO Box 4399 Hagley Stourbridge DY9 9WW. My last payment was Sept 2009. I did not receive any letter. I found out on the website. I am nowhere near completing the course. I like most cannot afford or justify finding that money to spend on a course again. I read in the London Evening Standard few weeks ago that the IT Sector is growing again. If thats the case why did Advent put themselves in a position that they had to pull out?

 

I signed the petition when it had 42 signatures, it now has over 600. I'm advising everyone who has not signed to please sign. I feel lot of students doing the course through Advent still don't know whats happened. I will be contacting one or two people I know who work in the media to see if they can expose whats going on.

 

All the training providers up and down the country are reading these forums. They also will be hoping for a positive outcome because it will effect them in terms of people trusting training providers in the future.

 

Everyone keep up the good work and keep the faith.

 

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Well said!

Let us see where the following names pop up next:

Ashley Jones, Andrew Allchurch and John Whitehead

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Administrators Appointed see PKF

 

Had a look and we're not in line for any joy there then.Thinking caps on guys.

My interest free period is up beginning march I have no desire to carry on with this or to pay for a substandard course. If Barclays are looking for a provider the same quality as Advent then it will not need to be up to much.

In fact any company that gets involved with this I'd avoid like the plague

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Hi There,

 

If anyone wants help/guidance with the S75 refund let me know, been helping people with them for years - I do it for a living :-)

 

The first thing to take on board with BPF and all Financial Institutions, they are programmed to refuse your request at first because they assume you do not know about S75. You have to pressurise and push the right buttons, I have had Barclays/Lloyds/RBS making refunds within 14 days and you know it hurts them every time.

 

Hi - i have called Barclays and they refuse to freeze my account until its sorted??? Where do i go now? I have wrote a letter and got no reply? I havent had anything from Barclays at all????

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Hi - i have called Barclays and they refuse to freeze my account until its sorted??? Where do i go now? I have wrote a letter and got no reply? I havent had anything from Barclays at all????

 

me neither, mate. I've sent a complaint yesterday, we'll see if that changes anything

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I got the same thing really unprofessional email... then nobody answering the phones and the same message on the advent's web portal... i just finished my A+ with them i have 18y of it experience so for me just took 2 months to graduate... my original plan was the ccna and i allready paid for nothing 1200 bucks for nothing if i just want A+ i could get it for £300...

 

thanks if anyone know solution .... i think we screwed well. noone will get our money back and no other company will take as....

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New to this place guys.

 

I have just read a press release

 

http://www.birminghampost.net/birmingham-business/birmingham-business-news/manufacturing-and-skills-business/2010/02/18/training-firms-access-2-careers-and-advent-computer-training-enter-administration-65233-25858446/

Many of the affected students had arranged finance though Barclays and are still paying for the training while the bank seeks an alternative provider to allow them to finish their courses.

There have been suggestions that another local company - Dudley-based Computeach - could step in to fill the role for those students on IT courses.”

 

No doubt Barclay’s, if this is true have not heard about Computeach’s poor reputation, perhaps they should Google ‘ Computeach’ Complaints’ and they will realise they are not doing Advent students any favours.

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That's an interesting point Mick asking for proof they've paid Advent. I wondered that too. did they pay all at once or in instalments as the course progressed. There's a lot of questions surrounding this

 

Usual arrangement is that they pay the total. Training provider then pays back 20% into a holding fund to cover eventual s75 claims. Company gets this 20% when candidate completes.

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Sign up for this one, pass it on

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/adventcomputer/

 

David Michael

 

We are waiting for ours to go up for Energy Assessor trainees caught up in the PP+ failure (Daily Mirror today, page 31 also online).

 

I will encourage energy assessors and HIs to sign yours. It's basically all the same [problem]. Haymarket Publications (What Car?) have just got involved with one for driving instructors. Will contact them and ask them to read today's Mirror.

 

Joseph Pestell

Hon Secretary

Institute of Home Inspection

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Has anyone thought of what happens in case all we struggle for, in this mess, turns out eventually to be for nothing? I mean, what's gonna be then? Will we gonna have two options, accept the IT provider, Barclays imposes us, with all the inconveniences or not accept that IT provider and being forced by law to keep paying for nothing? ...because this is how Barclays sees what's gonna be, I suppose. Has anyone tired to see things putting himself for a moment in that situation? are things seen differently? is S75 more useful? wouldn't we stand a better chance of making justice form that standpoint? What if Barclays involved as in a persuasion movement to make us accept "that" IT Provider, you don't know anything about, only to have left just a few afterwards(those who won't accept) and thus having a much more better chance of forcing and imposing? AM I being out of question?

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Administrators for:

 

Advent Computer Training Ltd - Company No 04511374.

(prev name was Advent consulting Ltd)

 

Access 2 Careers Ltd Company No 05260747

(prev name was Anglo Capital Ltd)

 

have now been appointed.

 

They are:

 

PKF Accountants

New Guild House

45 Great Charles St

Queensway

Birmingham

B3 2LX

 

They have a dedicated number for Advent/Access - 0844 770 1921

 

E-mail: [email protected]

 

David

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Well Bloody cheek :mad: Got a letter from BPF

"Just to let you know, the buy now pay later period on your Advent Consulting Ltd account financed by us is just about up.

 

You'll notice that we've a new look and new name, in fact we're hoping to have some exciting new products to offer you. (canny wait:eek:)

(it's exactly the same letter head as the other letters:rolleyes:)

 

And what's this all about "Our New Name, Barclays Partner Finance will appear on your bank statement. We'll do this automatically every month until the entire loan including interest and any charges have been paid.

Rest of the letter is about payment methods etc.

 

Do you think if we go to court we'd win:confused:

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Hi Wasabi

Head office 1 Churchill Place, London,E14 5HP

letter should be enough except I no longer feel they have bothered with me

 

 

 

But that may be cos I've not started paying anything back yet so they're upping the game in my case they did say they would look at individual cases.

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"Just to let you know, the buy now pay later period on your Advent Consulting Ltd account financed by us is just about up.

 

You'll notice that we've a new look and new name, in fact we're hoping to have some exciting new products to offer you. (canny wait:shock:)

(it's exactly the same letter head as the other letters:rolleyes:)

Now back to your account, you've a couple payment options.

(.blah blah pay the lump sum £5450 or get totally screwed with interestlink3.gif to £11,271.36p )

 

Oh, that's nice of them.

 

Suspect though, that is a standard letter that the system issues (when the account is about to roll over) and probably got churned out anyway.

 

I think you have had confirmation in writing that your account is on hold?

 

David

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Today I received a letter from BPF, informing me that my 'latest direct debit payment has been returned unpaid' and basically demanding that pay up straight away.

 

This despite the fact that both of their call centre operators I spoke to assured me that the account had already been frozen.

 

I am, obviously, mightily ****ed off about this.

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I sent the letter asking for the account to be frozen have a copy, but no reply to it, they'll be stringing me along till the date the interest free period is up and even the letter of Default Notice is going past the date for interest to be added and just as I feared all along.

My only hope is going to court on the s75 cca

 

If you speak to any right thinking person not in a bank they think it should be straight forward breach case, this is all wrong what they're doing.:(

 

If I refuse to pay and put this account in dispute then if it goes against me I'll be really snookered with interest and massive charges likely.:eek:

I still think there's a case for being mis sold the course in the first place and I know I'm not alone on that one.

No use looking for compensation from Advent Administrators it'll be next to nothing although I'll still inform them of the situation.

We're being stitched up well that's how it feels.

 

Consumer Direct said as I've had the course for a year then I'm liable to pay for that much but that's all. Lawyer said I can claim from Advent. but have to pay Barclay.

 

Remember I had a dealing with Gothia well did that list Martin posted mean that Barclays Partner Finance is actually Gothia DCA? and I'm still waiting to hear from them too.

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There is no way Barclays will release any money, they have too much to loose! Those money grubbers will hold on to it. So the money in other words that ridiculous interest pays out for those pensions more than like. In which case they will find another IT provider no matter what. They want you to pay that interest. It sad but I doubt we will get our money back. If we could organize a protest outside one of their banks then it would raise a eye of the public too. Only problem is most people work and not everyone would be able to attend. But there has to be someway that we can shame and pressure Barclays into releasing the money back to us, and save loss of face?

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and why if you put Barclays Partner Finance into companies house you get Barclays Pension Funds Trustees Limited 1 Churchill Place, London

 

Because Barclays Partner Finance is a 'trading' name and Co House no longer keeps records of trading names.

 

What the Co house list is doing is picking up the 1st Barclays P that comes up.

 

The company is this:

 

Licence Number:0375557

Licence Status:Current

 

Current Applicant / Licensee:

 

Business NameCompany Registration NumberClydesdale Financial Services Limited2901725

 

Categories:

 

Consumer credit Credit brokerage Debt collecting

 

Right To Canvass Off Trade Premises:Yes

 

 

Trading Name(s) (Current):

 

Barclaycard Motor Loans Barclays Partner Finance Clydesdale Finance Clydesdale Financial Services Personal Loans From Barclaycard

 

 

 

 

Very simply, Barclays PLC bought the company and gave it a new trading name.

 

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