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This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. 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Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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Hi masterwoody , welcome back :)

 

You could send the bank something like this which Pete (Castlebest ) sent ..(with a copy to the court) but you'll probaly have to re -word it a bit to say you're awaiting further advice on amendment of POCs .......

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/show-post/post-2664368.html

 

That tells HSBC that the fight is not over ..... no matter how much they want it to be .... their (template )letter which they're sending out to millions .. is(IMHO:rolleyes:) a load of Half-truths , and deceptions to get people to roll over and give up .......

 

It also lets the court know that you want to keep the stay in place at the moment ......

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Retraction of iffy statement lol!

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Just had this letter from the court....

 

General order of judgment or order:

 

Before judge XXXXXXX of the court of XXXXXXXXXX adrees of court

 

 

IT IS ORDERED THAT:

A Formal application togeather with the appropriate fee is required.

 

The application shall be considered at the case managment conferance to be listed on notice to the claimant (me) on the first available date after 14 days, with a time estimate of 15 minutes.

 

date 18 January 2010 ( ONLY GOT THE LETTER today)

 

 

 

Please nay help welcome and i have no idea waht this means!

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keep the envelope as it will have the postmark date which is important,

if you cannot see the postmark it will then have a barcode and this is very reliable,what date was the hsbc letter marked as the day they are supposed to have sent it....skullduggery springs to mind and in fact it is bordering on dishonesty ,good news for you is you can show this to the judge as it is bordering on contempt..if they had gone to court and you had not received any notification from the court then they are in error ..

as you have sent your amended particulars you will need to add this letter as further evidence towards the attitude and conivance being perpetrated by the banks legal dept....

wait see what the other peeps say on here for more exacting advice

patrickq1

it aint over till the fat lady sings lol

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  • 3 months later...

I started my bank claim charges claim back in 2006-7, i owed them about 2k overdraft, i was in a mess they closed my account and debt collectors chased for the over draft.....i discovered this site and realised how much bank charges the overdraft was made up of charges 2.5k

 

i started the bank charges case and the debt collectors left me alone a sort of win

 

any way roll on 2010 and the bank went for a strike out due to the oft case , i paniced and sent a "martin lewis" admended POC

 

now the case is progressing, i'm happy to leave the case in limbo, i've had an order from the court to attend "a case a mangment conferance" what ever that is ....

 

I'm thinking of giving in, as this is all well over my head and i'm thinking if a do a discontuance and then they can chase me in court over the charges i stand a better chance as a defendent?

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I know how you feel mate, we have been fighting HSBC since 2007 and they have now threatened to take us to court. We haven't been told our own court case has been struck out though:confused:

 

I trolled through 4 years of very disjointed paperwork last night and I'm not sure what to do now. Our claim amounts to the total in charges 2 accounts about £7,000.

 

I actually work for a lawyer so when I see the rubbish from DG it makes me really stubborn about carrying on but I'm just not sure if I can anymore.

 

Do we stand a better chance in court?????

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Hiya both, I think most people are in the same boat with HSBC at the moment, DG are telling everyone they won the test case so you should pay up now... this is total and utter rubbish.

 

Since the end of the test case they have tried this with me and I wrote back to them telling them that they are wrong so they passed my (so called) debt to two different collection agencies. I wrote to both collection agencies telling them they would have great difficulty collecting this debt as its already the subject of my own county court proceedings against HSBC... they have both given up too.

 

There are other things progressing at the moment and my advice is buy as much time as possible for now to let things clear.

 

pete

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any idea what hppens at a case managment conferance? it seems a bit hard that i have to take a day off work to turn up for 15 minutes?

 

I'm thinking of sending a letter saying: work won't give the time off so i can't attend, (which is true) and that i'd like the case stayed as my case is very simmlar to many other claims and would like to further clarification of the situation

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  • 3 weeks later...

gutted !!!!

 

got notice from the court today:

 

the case is stuck out:confused:

no order made for costs

 

 

i wonder how long it will take for them to start chasing me for the O/D? about 1.8k?

 

well it might take 3 more years for them to take me to court!

 

will they now mark my credit file with a default marker?

 

thanks for all the help but i think i should of attended court to stop it getting chucked out

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Bank charges Claim going back to 2008, the claim has been stuck out becuase i did'nt attend the court for a case managment review and was requested by the court to attend

 

any way i can get things re started?

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  • 5 months later...

I'm still trundling on with the taccy letters from debt collectors who are all associated with HSBC. Just keep writing back "as you are part of HSBC take a look at my file". Have been offered if I pay in full they will deduct £500.

 

A friend who works for another bank has taken a look at some of the letters and said they are worthless as most of them don't have the right details on them. My 18 month year old could write better lol.

 

Still have one account stayed in Court and have never heard a thing.

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