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By theoldrouge · Posted
The latest polls say otherwise Party support: 3 June 2024 LAB 45% (40-50%) CON 24% (19-29%) REF 11% (8-14%) LD 10% (7-13%) GRN 5% (2-8%) SNP 3% (2-4%) PC 1% (<1-2%) -
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Oh, one other thing. It may sound a silly question, but as they say - silly questions are better than silly mistakes. The correspondence address in the current case and the previous one is correct and current. I've never actually written to the banks to confirm my address, as is regularly advised, because I presumed if Moriarty/IDR/J&P are using that address, there would be no need to. So because both cases seem to have my address correct, should I still write to the bank or take it that there's no need in this instance? -
Yep, that's it @dx100uk - thanks for the clarification. My bad... Cheers again for all your help 👍
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Hi all Just coming back to this Forum, as it helped me so much a few years back with ADCB/Moriarty. So I've had the circulars from IDR chasing Emirates NBD debt. They've been on and off over past few years, seem to be a run of letters, emails SMS and then go quiet, then start again. A few months ago, same started with J&P, just a basic letter, email, sms asking to get in contact. Then last week I saw an email from Emirates NBD saying J&P were acting on their behalf. Up to this point, the main thrust of the letter seems to be please contact us, or contact ENBD about payment. Then I received a letter - I can't scan/upload it at this time but I will as soon as I can - which appears to be similar to what I've seen on other threads. Namely giving bank details of ENBD, saying they've been "instructed to pursue action", and saying they've enclosed a copy of Information Sheet, Reply Form in compliance of Pre-Action Protocol They state I have 30 days from date on letter to reply, and "if you fail to do so our client may have no option but to pursue further action against you". I'm of the view, as per advice on other threads and my experience with the other lender/company, to reply as per thread #5 in the main thread. On the basis that I wouldn't wish to give them ammunition by not replying or missing the opportunity. I'm aware that on some threads, in similar situation, one poster had been advised by sols not to reply and apparently J&P didn't progress from there, other than sending same requests. I feel these things are always down to the individual's choice, and I'm keen to see what others may have done/may be doing so will actively read other threads also. Please feel free to ask if I can help with anything, or share any opinions, and in the meantime I'll get the uploads done ASAP. Thanks again for everyone's help in the past, and hopefully the future, and good luck to all
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