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Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
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Hi all,

 

Mum recommended I asked your advice before continuing:)

 

I had my little girl in 2007 and was on income support (single parent) On the 10th jan 2008. I was contacted by the CSA to say the were processing forms etc for payments to be made by her father. I WAS told by the Csa that there was no need to do anything as the DWP would be notified once payments had begun (I have now been made aware that is not true)

 

I contacted the DWP on the 4th Feb 2008 to inform them that I would recieve my first CM payment into my account on the 12th feb 2008. However I continued to recieve Income support. When I called again I was told that the systems had not caught up with themselves.

 

Then on 30th march 2008 I was sent a letter claiming an overpayment of £650.65 for the period 08/01/2008 to 24/03/2008. I contacted them straight away and was told that I should appeal as they were notified on 04/02/2008 of the CM payments begining. I sent a letter stating this and asking for a reconsideration. A year later I recieved a letter informing me of the decision. This was on the 20/07/09. It was however sent to my previous address, and so I recieved it much later..

 

I again contacted them stating that I had been at a diff address since /may, and was told a new letter would be sent with details to pay etc, stupidly whilst on the call I agreed to a payment plan but so far have not paid anything. Since then I have made 4-5 calls and each time spoke to diff representatives who told me I owed anything from £650.65 to nothing I had paid off 383 of it and diff amounts in between that.

 

I finally got through to someone who sent me out my transactions info, which states that money paid was to the Social Fund I had borrowed and that had been fully paid back. No payments had been made to the overpayment and therefore my actual sum outstanding was for £236.00.

 

I am mid letter to Appeal against this decision for the period thay are stating as I was recieving no Child maintenance at all during that time.

 

My question is.... I am right in what I am saying? Although my CM case was taken on, on 10/01/2008 I didnt recieve payment until 12/02/2008.

 

Also, as the first decision was sent to wrong add? and subsequently I have been mis-informed of amounts and there has been a postal strike, am I still within my limits?

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First off, are you sure the overpayment was IS, or social fund/crisis loan? I'm not sure if I misread, but it sounded as if you may have confused the 2.

 

Also, when you sign the initial agreement for IS you agree that any overpayments can be recovered as long as they tell you beforehand so in theory they do have the right ot recover the money as long as they believe it was an overpayment.

 

Having said that, if you have bank statements or CSA documents to show you weren't receiving any CM during that period it may be that you can contact them and have them recalculate that period.

 

There wasn't anything else that changed that you didn't tell them about straight away or anything was there? Any part time work or anything like that, because a lot of that is taken into account when processing IS. Same with a change of address, if you don't let them know straight away, it causes all sorts of problems.

 

Hope some of that helped.

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Hi James

 

Thanks for reply.

 

I took out a social fund which was initially paid back through my IS then when that stopped I made regular payments until that had finished. have the transaction letter in front of me now. £600 fully paid pack.

 

DWP are asking for an IS overpayment. They are ( I am assuming) taking the date the CSA took on my case the 8th jan. Not the date that I actually recieved money to calculate this over payment. I didnt recieve any CM until 12th feb a month later which was for £226.10. Half of what was paid by the father.

 

No nothing changed during the time they are requesting that they were not told about. I have all documents to state.... I learned a good 2 years ago to keep everything!

 

Futhermore I have letters I have just found that state complete random figures that I had called and questioned which have been explained as ERROR IN LOADING!.

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Hi just an update on this,

 

Basically I fought tooth and nail, through postal stikes and "lost letters" But in the end I had the debt re-assesed to £0.00 :)

 

I had learned long ago to hide any debt letters, and along with luckily and other impportant letters. So unpon careful sorting through of dates etc I was able to put togetehr a clear cut case that they were unable to argue with.

 

Learned Lesson : Keep everything !!!!!!!!!!!

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Scamps that is fantastic news. Well done you!

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