Law re: no MOT / Tax while driving to garage then to MOT test?

[JimmySpangle]

Incorrect. Your car MUST be roadworthy to be driven on the public highway - whether attending an MoT or otherwise. The MoT merely confirms the car is to a MINIMUM standard at the time of the test, no more. If it is not up to the minimum standard it is not roadworthy. It does not necessarily mean it is dangerous, just not roadworthy.

 

If you drive any vehicle on the public highway in an unroadworthy condition, you are breaking the law. End of.

[danielr]

Technically you must have a valid MOT and tax to drive on a public highway too.

but there are exceptions.

 

if your car fails it's MOT it is not roadworthy, but you are still entitled to drive it home to carry out repairs yourself, or indeed you are allowed to drive your car to another garage for repair.

 

 

If that was the case you'd have to get your car fixed at the same garage as the MOT was done as you couldn't possibly move the car.

 

this is simply not true. -and if it were true what do you do when you;ve gone to an MOT only garage that don't carry out repairs?

 

 

long story short you can drive an untaxed/un-mot'd car directly to a booked MOT. directly from an MOT,

directly to a garage to have repairs carried out. (with appointment booked).

[Conniff]

I think everyone gets the picture now.

[noomill060]

Years ago I had a similar situation.

 

Car failed MOT and needed to get something fixed at garage. I vaguely remembered something about the MOT/tax disc exemption and phoned local traffic cops to confirm.

 

The duty Sarg I spoke to said that as long as the work was booked in I would be fine. He gave me his name, number and internal works phone number and said that if I was hassled on the way there or back ,I was to tell the officers involved that Sgt Xxxxxx was aware and that if I got any grief, I should ring him ASAP with the officer's number.

 

Policemen are numbered (and not just in case they get lost)

[heliosuk]

YAWN!!!!

 

How do we cut this one off?

[danielr]

YAWN!!!!

 

How do we cut this one off?

it's easy, stop posting in it and it falls to the bottom of the page, then off the page.

[slick132]

Great Idea !!

 

I certainly won't be posting here again.

 

[JimmySpangle]

Well I am definitely not.

 

Oh blast!

[noomill060]

Nor me......

 

(dammit!)

[Conniff]

Your not leaving me on my own surely - what if my tax disc runs out and I need to take my car for an MoT, I won't know what to do.

[slick132]

Hey Conniff,

 

You'll just have to read all the earlier opinions.

 

But rest assured, no-one will be posting here any more.

 

Shut the door on your way out.................

[Conniff]

Oh dear - anyone fancy a pint on the way home.

[slick132]

Not if you're driving in a dodgy motor with no MOT.

 

[heliosuk]

Conniff, you've already been given a beer or two on another thread, really!!

 

As we are on the subject of MOT etc, and hopefuly to kill this one off but add a bit of fun I,m going to post a real life MOT conumdrum.

 

See new post.

[JimmySpangle]

I didn't realise people were still posting in this thread. I'm not.

 

Duh!

[grumpy101]

I'm a tester so you all know so long as you have insurance and you are pre booked into and mot testing station your legal to drive it there (really should be closest testing station to your home) and who ever said sumit about not needing number plates your talking bollox! Number plates are part of the test you div! I'v had police ring me before asking to speak to nominated tester i spoke to them and they have asked me to confirm the vehicle is booked in and what the registration number of the vehicle is they then followed him down to us!!

 

Does this mean that if a person buys a car near Loch Lomond with no MOT he can drive it to an MOT station nearest his home in Cornwall? Alternatively if the vehicle fails its MOT in Scotland would driving it home (to where it is going to be repaired) count as driving it to a place of repair? It seems to be a grey area and it would be very useful to know all the loopholes.

 

In the case of trailers which have just been purchased, English case law has shown that an EMPTY trailer which has just been purchased and is being taken home is NOT BEING USED! (a person had a wheel fall off his trailer and the police prosecuted the person but lost!)

 

We can't all have trade plates and vehicle transporter lorries as they cost too much!

[Conniff]

Does this mean that if a person buys a car near Loch Lomond with no MOT he can drive it to an MOT station nearest his home in Cornwall? Alternatively if the vehicle fails its MOT in Scotland would driving it home (to where it is going to be repaired) count as driving it to a place of repair? It seems to be a grey area and it would be very useful to know all the loopholes.

 

In the case of trailers which have just been purchased, English case law has shown that an EMPTY trailer which has just been purchased and is being taken home is NOT BEING USED! (a person had a wheel fall off his trailer and the police prosecuted the person but lost!)

 

We can't all have trade plates and vehicle transporter lorries as they cost too much!

 

That post is a joke right? Go on, tell me you are joking please.

[grumpy101]

Maybe one could have a long list of pre-booked MOTs all along the route? LOL!

 

Lighten up you sound a bit like the miserable ginger haired MOT Tester around here (the one that nobody likes). He failed a friends BMW for "excessive play in the steering" but he tested for play at full lock and the car had a steering box! Oh well they do have to get plenty of failures otherwise VOSA will come knocking! When I checked it there was no play in the steering and he's lucky that Doug didn't appeal (trouble is that the car is then out of action for a month so nobody ever appeals) When Doug went back he said "You will check it with the wheels straight ahead won't you?" and the bloke went nearly as red as a traffic light! Another bad tester around here has been sacked. He used to measure the letter spacing on factory made number plates to make sure it was all correct and in Charles Wright script! That bloke basically owes me £120 as he failed my "Range Rover Vogue EFi" on "Leaking master cylinder brakes creeping." I told him that he was testing it wrong because the car had been converted to DIESEL and he was testing it as a petrol. What was happening was that the pedal was dipping slightly as the vacuum pump pulled a harder and harder vacuum and was adamant that it was faulty. With a brand new master cylinder it was exactly the same. The difference is that with a 3.5 litre petrol engine the engine is the vacuum pump and the vacuum that is depleted by using the brake gets replenished in a fraction of a second. The other gaffe that the bloke made was in using a two wheel brake tester on a vehicle with permanent 4WD. He was totally out of his depth. Such people cost the punters a lot of money.

 

In one of my careers I maintained the machine tools at British Leyland so I do know what I'm on about.

[heliosuk]

Maybe one could have a long list of pre-booked MOTs all along the route? LOL!

 

Lighten up you sound a bit like the miserable ginger haired MOT Tester around here (the one that nobody likes). He failed a friends BMW for "excessive play in the steering" but he tested for play at full lock and the car had a steering box! Oh well they do have to get plenty of failures otherwise VOSA will come knocking! When I checked it there was no play in the steering and he's lucky that Doug didn't appeal (trouble is that the car is then out of action for a month so nobody ever appeals) When Doug went back he said "You will check it with the wheels straight ahead won't you?" and the bloke went nearly as red as a traffic light! Another bad tester around here has been sacked. He used to measure the letter spacing on factory made number plates to make sure it was all correct and in Charles Wright script! That bloke basically owes me £120 as he failed my "Range Rover Vogue EFi" on "Leaking master cylinder brakes creeping." I told him that he was testing it wrong because the car had been converted to DIESEL and he was testing it as a petrol. What was happening was that the pedal was dipping slightly as the vacuum pump pulled a harder and harder vacuum and was adamant that it was faulty. With a brand new master cylinder it was exactly the same. The difference is that with a 3.5 litre petrol engine the engine is the vacuum pump and the vacuum that is depleted by using the brake gets replenished in a fraction of a second. The other gaffe that the bloke made was in using a two wheel brake tester on a vehicle with permanent 4WD. He was totally out of his depth. Such people cost the punters a lot of money.

 

In one of my careers I maintained the machine tools at British Leyland so I do know what I'm on about.

 

This has to be one of the funniest, most innacurate posts I have read in a long time. It's no wonder British Leyland was as it was if this was the standard of their engineering expertise!!! Had it come from someone at Dinky, Corgi or Matchbox (fine establishments in their own right) it might have some credibility!!

[heliosuk]

That post is a joke right? Go on, tell me you are joking please.

 

Has to be Conniff but go on.........admit it......it is actually quite absurbdly funny isn't it? ....................Isn't it?

[grumpy101]

This has to be one of the funniest, most innacurate posts I have read in a long time. It's no wonder British Leyland was as it was if this was the standard of their engineering expertise!!! Had it come from someone at Dinky, Corgi or Matchbox (fine establishments in their own right) it might have some credibility!!

 

SO TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CHECK FOR PLAY IN THE STEERING AT FULL LOCK when a car has worm and peg steering?

 

CMON TELL ME.

[Conniff]

Well if you are with BL or BMC, you get out your sleeping bag and get yuor head down.

 

In the case of trailers which have just been purchased, English case law has shown that an EMPTY trailer which has just been purchased and is being taken home is NOT BEING USED! (a person had a wheel fall off his trailer and the police prosecuted the person but lost!)

 

Can you link us to this 'high court precedence' case please or give us the court it was held in and the case number ??

Edited July 20, 2012 by Conniff

[sailor sam]

Hasn't this thread gone off topic and in any event, run it's course? I think the OP's question has been adequately answered.

[raydetinu]

I think he was feeling lonely and found an old thread to have a chat with? in a slightly tongue in cheek way, I think!

Anyway, amusing. no offence.

[Conniff]

Hasn't this thread gone off topic and in any event, run it's course? I think the OP's question has been adequately answered.

 

Maybe Sam - tomorrow we will be telling you all how to make a pasty.