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Also do we send our N265 forms just to the claimants solicitors ? -
By London1971 · Posted
I already have proof that a previous letter was never sent, (See post 28). I'm not the sort of person who doesn't open their mail, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that this letter was never received, if it had of been i'd have been on here like a shot. -
scan it up to pDF dx -
Ok not sure regarding the section 20 notices helping.In the defence we have put the claimant under strict proof that the monies were legally demanded by way of section 20 notices so more on them to provide ? Are the 4 documents that I have listed sufficient do you think ? They are in line with the defence. How should the wording be when I list them on the N265 ? In terms of completing the form we fill in the claim details. We don't know for sure the court as we haven't heard from the court yet. We only have draft directions from the claimant.
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scan everything up to one mass PDF please i will suspect just like the other Paypal EU threads, PP terminated the account upon sale to lowells, so they cant issue a new DN, there was no agreement in force. dx
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