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    • Unsettling the applecart?,  I'm going to be direct here, I know how this works , I've been in far worse situation than your relative, and I can assure you , now that there i likely a default in her name, it makes absolutely ZERO difference if she pays or not. Denzel Washington in the Equalizer , 'My only regret is that I can't kill you twice'... It's the same with a default, they can only do it once and it stays on your credit file for 6 years if she pays or not, and as it stands right now she's flushing £180 of her hard earned money down the toilet  so that the chaps at Lowell can afford a Christmas party. As for the SAR this is everybody's legal right, originally under the Data Protection act 1998 and now under GDPR, it's her right to find out everything that the original Creditor has on her file, and by not doing it the only person she is doing a massive disservice to is her self. As the father of 2 young adults myself, they need to learn at some point.. right?
    • Thank you for your pointers - much appreciated. dx100uk - Apologies, my request wasn't for super urgent advice and I have limited online access due to my long working hours and caring obligations - the delay in my response doesn't arise in any way from disrespect or ingratitude. I will speak to her at the weekend and see if she will open up a bit more about this, and allow me to submit the subject access request you advise - the original creditor is 118 118 loans and from the letter I saw (which prompted the conversation and the information) the debt collection agency had bought the debt from 118 and were threatening enforcement which is when she has made a payment arrangement with them for an amount of £180 per month. It looks as if she queried matters at the time (so I wonder if I might with the FIO request get access to their investigation file?) - the letter they wrote said "The information that you provided has been carefully considered and reviewed. After all relevant enquiries were made it has been confirmed that there is not enough evidence present to conclusively prove that this application was fraudulent.  However, we have removed the interest as a gesture of goodwill. As a result of the findings, you will be held liable for the capital amount on the loan on the basis of the information found during the investigation and you will be pursued for repayment of the loan agreement executed on 2.11.2022 in accordance with Consumer Credit Act 1974"  The amount at that time was over £3600 in arrears, as no payments had been made on it since inception and I think she only found out about it when a default notice came in paper form. I'm a little reluctant to advise her to just stop paying, and would like to be able to form a view in relation to her position and options before unsetting the applecart - do you think this is reasonable? She is young and inexperienced with these things and getting into this situation has brought about a lot of shame regarding inability to sort things out/stand up for herself, which is one of the reasons I have only found out about this considerably later Thank you once again for your advice - it is very much appreciated.    
    • That's fine - I'm quite happy to attend court if necessary. The question was phrased in such a way that had I declined the 'consideration on the papers' option, I would have had to explain why I didn't think such consideration was appropriate, and since P2G appear to be relying on a single (arguably flawed) issue, I thought it might result in a speedier determination.
    • it was ordered in the retailers store  but your theory isnt relevant anyway, even if it fitted the case... the furniture is unfit for purpose within 30 days so consumer rights act overwrites any need to use 14 days contract law you refer too. dx  
    • Summary of the day from the Times. I wasn't watching for a couple of interesting bits like catching herself out with her own email. Post Office inquiry: Paula Vennells caught out by her own email — watch live ARCHIVE.PH archived 23 May 2024 11:57:02 UTC  
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hi i need advice i have 4 depts to 3 companies £12,000 to lloyds bank,£2000 to black horse another £1500 to black horse andd an egg cc £2000.

I retired from work 9 yrs ago after fiinding out i have parkiinsons disease ans live on benefits .ive reclaimed bank charges,ppi ect.ive tried a credit fix companyand now been advised to take an iva.

thing is i cant afford the payments on the iva £200 per month for 5 yrs !!

I have no assets i rent my house,the only thing i have of any value is my car a mitsubishil l200 07 plate bought with a loan from motability 6 months ago which i pay £180 pcm for direct from benefits.

ive been reading posts on bancrupcy and am considering this route any advice,and would the car be siezed as without it i am unable to get around as i can only walk short distances and live rurually ie public transport o

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In cases like this this the OR is looking to see if they can recover anything. As the car is in negative equity the OR will sent a letter statting that he will not be adopting the agreement. This puts the ball back in the court of the the lender. Some lenders will take the car back, some will allow you to keep making payments. The OR looks sympathetically on Motability cases and will normally attach a letter asking that you be allowed to keep the car. All this means that i have never heard of a car in negative equity being taken back by Motability BUT every case is looked at on its own merits

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does the car have to be included at all as its paid direct fr om my benefits i have no problem with the payments as i never actually see the m oney so i dont actually class it as part of my income .i would like to continue with the arrangement for the car

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Hi there

 

Considering your circumstances, bankruptcy is a good option for you. You would need to declare your income and expenditure details, and all details of assets in your name, and it is down to the official receiver to look into this and see what he needs to realise/sell to repay the debt. You would not lose much by going bankrupt with you living in rented accomodation, and your Bankruptcy would only take 12 months and you would then be debt free. You would need an upfront cost of about £500 to set up the bankruptcy,but I would strongly suggest you look into this option further.If you have no assets of a high value, bankruptcy is not stressful, and it would be the official reciever dealing with everything on your behalf. The only thing is that the bankruptcy would be advertised in the newspaper.

 

Best wishes

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retired from work 9 yrs ago after fiinding out i have parkiinsons disease ans live on benefits .ive reclaimed bank charges,ppi ect.ive tried a credit fix companyand now been advised to take an iva.

thing is i cant afford the payments on the iva £200 per month for 5 yrs !!

 

name and shame these people - you are on benefits and there is no way you can afford let alone even suggest a huge commitment like a IVA that is only suitable for the minority of people in debt.

 

Your car should be safe but you need to declare it on yourSOA - you will only need to pay £345ish not the full £500 and there are charities that can help with the fees.

Consumer Health Forums - where you can discuss any health or relationship matters.

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companies are lloyds bank,and black horse all money grabbing ba*****rds

can you give me the names of charities who may help

 

I meant the names of the people trying ot get you into a IVA.

A search should throw up some charities.

Consumer Health Forums - where you can discuss any health or relationship matters.

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the people trying to get me into an iva are BACK TO BLACK AND CREDIT FIX. ive told themn that i wont be going ahead with the iva and they offered help with the bankrupcy , ive just had a call from them saying that the bankrupcy would cost me £500 and the chearge for their help would be another £500 !! they also said that when the b/c goes through the court woukd probably look at my income and make an order that i pay about £200 a month to my creditors for three years so its very similar to an iva,they also said that my bank account would be frozen and i would have to apply to the receicver to obtain money fro general living expenses. is any of this true? it seems very different to what ive read on here.if this is not the case can somebody tell me how to go about filling in the b/c forms and were to go for some free advice

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Hi, you can post questions about filling in the soa on here, i am usually about. The OR does not hold the reigns to your bank account or money during bankruptcy. But you may be asked to pay something to your creditors for 3 years. It depends on your income and expenses. Do you have any income that is not a benefit or a state pension. You can get the forms by phoning your local court. The cccs and CAB can help you for free. There are firms that fill in your forms for a fee but these are nt nessesarily any better then the free or do it oyurself options. Hources fo courses.

 

In conclusion, If you believe Br to be the only option, then get the forms. Have a go at filling them in, if you have trouble post any questions on here, if your totally lost seek some help free or otherwise

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hi just thought id update you all .

bout two months ago i sent a letter to each creditor asking them to write off the dept

to ,y supprise no response from any of them !! and its all gone quiet, no letters ,phone calls nothing i havent even had a dca contact me !

what do yu think?

leave best allone or contact them ?

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Hi there dazz :)

 

Can see that you've had conflicting advice and would like to offer some based on my own experience.

 

Firstly NEVER use a private company to administer your finances as they will charge you the earth for something you can do yourself easily with proper advice here.

 

Have you had comprehensive advice from nationaldebtline, CCCS or CAB re: BR?

 

There are a number of charities/organisations that can help with BR fees. A previous employer's fund paid mine. CCCS advised that some utility comapanies have funds available to help. Make a phone appointment with them to discuss this issue.

 

Unfortunately DCAs and OCs do NOT go away they just wait and pass the accounts on. Did you mention that you were considering BR to them? If not, do so now in writing. That may make the difference as to whether or not they write off your debts.

 

Please give an indicator as to your income. Is it just benefits or do you have any private income?

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