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The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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she'd made her mind up, and was not for changing.

 

Things didn't start well..

. i asked the usher to ask if i could defend my wife,

she said she'd ask the judge,

and welcomes solicitor.

 

i asked sols myself, she said thats ok.

 

went in to room, i again explained to judge.

 

she said that its fine for me to sit in but not to automatically assume i could speak....i didn't ...i asked.

 

so the usher messed me up to start...

 

that got the judges back up.

 

she was totally unsympathetic to the fact this was my first time in a court room and felt it her duty to teach me some respect after that.

 

i did everything by the book..i showed her respect, she showed me the crap on her shoe that she assumed was me..

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Oh Wayne thats awful no one should be made to feel like that you were hardly there being charged with murder ffs!

I am a consumer just like you, please get a second opinion or investigate yourself on anything I advise as I am in no way legally trained. Everything I know has come from the Mighty CAG and fellow CAGGERS. :cool:

 

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don't take this the wrong way beyond...i know you're one, but when i found out 5 mins before it was a woman.....i knew.

women only get in positions like that with hard work and Big b s!

i knew she'd be tough, not that tough though

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No offence taken I totally agree with you some women with a position of 'power' can be the devil incarnate Ive had enough female bosses to know that much some resent the fact they couldnt sleep their way to the top and had to work for it I think :x I really shouldnt say that but its just my opinion and a broad one at that.

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feel totally robbed.....really don't feel i was listened too at all.

i knew my arguements, but it was me talking just for the judge and welcomes version of olive oyl out of popeye to watch me squirm.

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That would explain the resentment lol I wasnt meaning judge in particular just women in high positions of authority in general

I am a consumer just like you, please get a second opinion or investigate yourself on anything I advise as I am in no way legally trained. Everything I know has come from the Mighty CAG and fellow CAGGERS. :cool:

 

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thanks pwg.

really don't think i can fight anymore,

lost faith in court system,

or at least lost faith in my ability in it and some of the people that practice in it.

To say i'm disheartened really is an understatement.

 

emanevs said about fighting this..

...what am i going to get though. more sols fees, court fees and charges.

 

its my fault for not getting help sooner,

my fault for not understanding things sooner.

...now i have to pay for it,

which is a shame because welcomes agreement is crap. now i see,now i know, but its too late.

 

one last thing ....

..that judge was nasty. if she was my mother, i'd be very very ashamed.

i put it down to HRT.

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sorry wayne but im creasing @ HRT :lol:

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I appreciate you feel low because you have taken a knock. Dont give up, dust yourself down again and start again.. Plan B.

A lot of things seem very corrupt with Finance and law matters at the moment but dont let that put you off !!!!

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I agree with pwg....give yourself the weekend away from thinking about it now and attack again as of monday you have put so much time and effort into this you need to give yourself a break

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Totally agree, take some well earned time out with your family and let it lie for a few days. Wayne, the fact that you stood up and spoke up for yourself proves to yourself and your family you will not be a victim.

 

 

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We will all be here to help in any way we can.. To help, support and motivate.....

We are all still fighting Wayne and who knows what will happen with each of our complaints but I for one am never going to give up whatever happens !!! If I cannot get justice for myself I will continue to help others to bring them down.

Have a good weekend Wayne and recharge your batteries. You have lost a battle today but not the war !!!

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this is an outrage

 

that witness statement had so many valid reasons to set asside.

 

so it was down to the length of time since the ccj was issued and consent order you signed was it,

 

nothing about the whole agreement being a pigs ear and totally unenforceable

 

judges as a rule give lip/ non solicitors a lot of leeway in court.

 

this is a total disgrace and an insult.

 

a lot of hard work has gone into this thread, only to be destroyed with a judge on a pmt bad day

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With these sort of judgements my mind keeps going back to the thought that Judges tend to be well off well off people tend to invest,

who do they invest with and with no suggestion that it was the case here but for example should a judge who has an invested interest with a finance company

such as say cattles then be able to sit in judgement when a consumer goes against that company,

after all our financial details are there for anyone who wants to sign up for membership of one of the reference agencys where do we go to ensure a judge is impartial.

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thanks for messages of support, at the end of the day i was screwed, thanks for all the help, you know who you are.

yes i have had time out, being to the zoo today with the 3 kids, day of school..never do it..but needed to remember whats important..

its about how you bounce back from things like this....

lie down and die or get up dust yourself down and smile.

i will leave it this weekend..but i'm not gone...in case you were wondering.

you guys carry on, i need you all to get them.....for me..;)

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anyone won????

 

keep at the ****..... not heard a dicky bird off them since last thursday.

 

what can they do now?

 

they can wait years for their money now..

...i'm not moving.

.no plans whatsoever of doing that.

they can't force me to sell can they?

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