stopping tv licence fees

[sequenci]

My opinion is its about choice, i choose to pay for sky.

I have no choice with the TV license which is a tax for the funding of the BBC RUBBISH in my opinion.

It has been mentioned the fees are for signals being transmitted but the money collected funds the BBC, ITV or any of the other channels receive no money from this tax, so sell the BBC put the money to good use from the sale & move on.

Like i said its a forced payment for entertainment, is it not my right to choose.

 

I appreciate that, Have you seen some of the other television models over countries have adopted? e.g. the USA? I would sooner pay £12 a month not to have any adverts.

 

Not all the BBC is rubbish, some of their programming is world class. Having said all this my fave channel by a MILE is Channel 4. ITV is dire, simply terrible.

[masmit]

I appreciate that, Have you seen some of the other television models over countries have adopted? e.g. the USA? I would sooner pay £12 a month not to have any adverts.

 

Not all the BBC is rubbish, some of their programming is world class. Having said all this my fave channel by a MILE is Channel 4. ITV is dire, simply terrible.

I think 90% of it is rubbish & repeats,

most of it is supporting washed up actors E.G Eastenders high wages, champagne dinners & party's.

I believe it to be an organisation ripping the public off.

we had the problem with MP's expenses, we can choose who we vote for on that score, but what say or choice do we have with this public company.

I believe it should stand on its own via pay per view or adverts, then its giving us a choice to decide.

I just believe its something i don't need to be taxed on & can live without given the choice.

sorry rant over for today

[sequenci]

What is your favourite channel and what do you like to watch?

 

I think the BBC can spend their money more effectively, I'm 100% in agreement there but I also appreciate the wide range of programming and that fact that they don't actually have that many soap operas. The current affairs, news, documentaries and comedy output is way, way better than most of the other organisations out there (apart from C4, of course hehe)

[Sol]

The BBC needs to change entirely. It needs to stop trying to compete with commercial broadcasters if it wishes to remain a public service, and a good start would be to stop trying to keep the big name stars with ludicrous salaries. Let them move to ITV, Channel 4 etc and showcase new talent instead.

 

They should also scrap BBC 3 and 4, as it's mainly all rubbish they show anyway, and condense more good programming onto BBC 1 and 2.

[heliosfa]

My opinion is its about choice, i choose to pay for sky.

I have no choice with the TV license which is a tax for the funding of the BBC RUBBISH in my opinion.

It has been mentioned the fees are for signals being transmitted but the money collected funds the BBC, ITV or any of the other channels receive no money from this tax, so sell the BBC put the money to good use from the sale & move on.

Like i said its a forced payment for entertainment, is it not my right to choose.

 

You do have a choice - don't watch TV.

 

If you want to watch TV, then you need a license. Just like if you want to use a car on the road, you need to buy a License (VEL).

 

H

[sequenci]

The BBC needs to change entirely. It needs to stop trying to compete with commercial broadcasters if it wishes to remain a public service, and a good start would be to stop trying to keep the big name stars with ludicrous salaries. Let them move to ITV, Channel 4 etc and showcase new talent instead.

 

They should also scrap BBC 3 and 4, as it's mainly all rubbish they show anyway, and condense more good programming onto BBC 1 and 2.

 

Great post.

 

I think they should have salary caps.

 

The BBC's biggest waste of money is Radio 1, what a farce.

[masmit]

You do have a choice - don't watch TV.

 

If you want to watch TV, then you need a license. Just like if you want to use a car on the road, you need to buy a License (VEL).

 

H

How the hell is it a choice, don't watch TV.

If you read my posts its clear on what i think.

if they stop funding the BBC with the license fees would we have this tax?

Obviously your perception of the fee i is different to my own, so if it were pay per view or advertised you would have a choice, with out getting rid of your other channels

[masmit]

What is your favourite channel and what do you like to watch?

 

I think the BBC can spend their money more effectively, I'm 100% in agreement there but I also appreciate the wide range of programming and that fact that they don't actually have that many soap operas. The current affairs, news, documentaries and comedy output is way, way better than most of the other organisations out there (apart from C4, of course hehe)

I have sky so the wide range of programing covers all topics for my entertainment,

I'm happy to pay for something if it is worth paying for & i don't think the BBC is.

[masmit]

The BBC needs to change entirely. It needs to stop trying to compete with commercial broadcasters if it wishes to remain a public service, and a good start would be to stop trying to keep the big name stars with ludicrous salaries. Let them move to ITV, Channel 4 etc and showcase new talent instead.

 

They should also scrap BBC 3 and 4, as it's mainly all rubbish they show anyway, and condense more good programming onto BBC 1 and 2.

Totally agree, except for keeping it a public service.

just can't understand why its not self-funding all the other channels are so lets sell it.

[sequenci]

I have sky so the wide range of programing covers all topics for my entertainment,

I'm happy to pay for something if it is worth paying for & i don't think the BBC is.

 

That's a really interesting twist, if you don't mind me saying.

 

You're happy to pay for sky but bemoan the output of the beeb.

[masmit]

That's a really interesting twist, if you don't mind me saying.

 

You're happy to pay for sky but bemoan the output of the beeb.

paying for sky is a choice, i don't have a choice with the beeb

[Surfer01]

It is the price of the licence that is the issue, not whether you shoudl have one. At nearly £130 the price is unjustified for the crap that is shown on BBC!

[sequenci]

It is the price of the licence that is the issue, not whether you shoudl have one. At nearly £130 the price is unjustified for the crap that is shown on BBC!

 

Out of interest, what channels are better?

[Surfer01]

Out of interest, what channels are better?

Channel 5 for a start. Got tired of watching the rubbish sproted on the BBC channels we now watch Sky mainly as there are loads of free channels there.

[Conniff]

It's all about opinion. I like a lot of the stuff transmitted by the BBC, stuff that no other channel has, and I make full use of the BBC World Service when I'm abroad as well.

 

Have to agree on one thing though, I don't agree with the stupidly inflated fees paid to jumped up nobodies like Woss.

[andydd]

How the hell is it a choice, don't watch TV.

If you read my posts its clear on what i think.

if they stop funding the BBC with the license fees would we have this tax?

Obviously your perception of the fee i is different to my own, so if it were pay per view or advertised you would have a choice, with out getting rid of your other channels

 

Theres another choice, only watch 'catch up' tv, as i do, i can watch nearly every program i want and it doesnt cost a penny

[Surfer01]

BBC World Service is despised by me as it was used as a propaganda machine in the sixties and seventies against our government and in many cases told outright lies and mistruths. This was a real eye opener for me as I always believed that the BBC was impartial. I am referring to the Rhodesian government.

PS Otherwise I agree with you that every one has the right to watch what they want.

[geoffthechef]

try looking here..

[Conniff]

try looking here..

 

What a load of tosh - there is not one single thing in there to support the ramblings of some nutter.

[Surfer01]

Just to correct one point, a dish is an aerial. It collects radio waves and feeds it to the receiving equipment just as the one on the chimney does.

Old analogue dishes did but I do not think the new dishes capable of receiving digital transmission receive radio waves as digital works in a different spectrum.

[Conniff]

There is no difference, they are still radio waves within the frequency of 9khz - 275ghz.

In simple terms, they just contain different information, but are still radio waves and the Lnb is an aerial. The dish is just a collector of those waves, a dish is not required for reception.

[danielr]

there is a clear and simple choice...

 

You pay your TV license to be able to receive TV broadcast signals, It's a license to operate equipment capable of receiving TV live broadcast signals.

 

that doesn't matter if the Signal is an terrestrial analogue signal, a terrestrial digital signal, a satellite digital signal or a digital signal fed through a cable to a cable receiver...

 

The money gathered from this is used to pay the for the BBC. which regardless of what you personally think about it, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be paid for, (since it's just personal opinion, and some people like it, others don't)...

-I could say the same about national insurance, I haven't been to a doctor, haven't been ill, needed time of works (SSP), etc for years, I don't have a choice to find an NHS dentist because there just isn't one.

so why should I have to pay national insurance, by some accounts the service is woefully inadequate, I don't use it and have no need for it. -why am I funding it?

 

So this is where the choice becomes clear...

 

You pay to receive (or have equipment capable of receiving) live broadcast.

 

so your choices are:

take the tuner out of your TV/Video recorder, or physically detach the aerial socket.

take down your antenna from the roof, disconnect your sky/cable subscription and send the boxes back.

 

now you have no equipment capable of receiving live broadcast and don't need a TV license.

 

less dramatic, buy a TV without a built in tuner -there are a few of these sold, mainly as for use as computer monitors that have AV input sockets so that you could connect a DVD player/games console to them.

-also get rid of your other receiving equipment (sky/cable box/antenna).

 

Your result with the above two choices are that you can only watch videos or DVD's or perhaps play video games. -but you don't have recieving euipment and don't need a license.

 

your final choice is to move to a different country where they don't have the socialist ideals of state funded television...

 

I don't really understand the argument for getting rid of the TV to avoid sponsoring the BBC through the license fee and then watching BBC programs on the Iplayer... as a money saving exercise that's great... but if everyone does it then there won't be any money to fund the catchup service...

[geoffthechef]

there is a clear and simple choice...

 

You pay your TV license to be able to receive TV broadcast signals, It's a license to operate equipment capable of receiving TV live broadcast signals.

 

that doesn't matter if the Signal is an terrestrial analogue signal, a terrestrial digital signal, a satellite digital signal or a digital signal fed through a cable to a cable receiver...

 

The money gathered from this is used to pay the for the BBC. which regardless of what you personally think about it, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be paid for, (since it's just personal opinion, and some people like it, others don't)...

-I could say the same about national insurance, I haven't been to a doctor, haven't been ill, needed time of works (SSP), etc for years, I don't have a choice to find an NHS dentist because there just isn't one.

so why should I have to pay national insurance, by some accounts the service is woefully inadequate, I don't use it and have no need for it. -why am I funding it?

 

So this is where the choice becomes clear...

 

You pay to receive (or have equipment capable of receiving) live broadcast.

 

so your choices are:

take the tuner out of your TV/Video recorder, or physically detach the aerial socket.

take down your antenna from the roof, disconnect your sky/cable subscription and send the boxes back.

 

now you have no equipment capable of receiving live broadcast and don't need a TV license.

 

less dramatic, buy a TV without a built in tuner -there are a few of these sold, mainly as for use as computer monitors that have AV input sockets so that you could connect a DVD player/games console to them.

-also get rid of your other receiving equipment (sky/cable box/antenna).

 

Your result with the above two choices are that you can only watch videos or DVD's or perhaps play video games. -but you don't have recieving euipment and don't need a license.

 

your final choice is to move to a different country where they don't have the socialist ideals of state funded television...

 

I don't really understand the argument for getting rid of the TV to avoid sponsoring the BBC through the license fee and then watching BBC programs on the Iplayer... as a money saving exercise that's great... but if everyone does it then there won't be any money to fund the catchup service...

 

 

there is a clear and simple choice...

 

NO THERE IS NOT...ITS PAY UP OR GO TO JAIL....

[danielr]

there is a clear and simple choice...

 

NO THERE IS NOT...ITS PAY UP OR GO TO JAIL....

perhaps my post was too long winded...

 

you pay a license to have a TV capable of receiving live broadcast, the choice is simple...

 

either,

A) Buy a license

B) doctor your TV to not be capable of receiving live broadcast

C) buy a TV not capable of receiving live broadcast

(both of the above still lets you watch DVD's/videos/play video games)

D) don't have a TV at all

E) get fined/go to jail...

 

there are five simple choices, don't pretend that there are only two when that's simply not the case.

[andydd]

perhaps my post was too long winded...

 

you pay a license to have a TV capable of receiving live broadcast, the choice is simple...

 

either,

A) Buy a license

B) doctor your TV to not be capable of receiving live broadcast

C) buy a TV not capable of receiving live broadcast

(both of the above still lets you watch DVD's/videos/play video games)

D) don't have a TV at all

E) get fined/go to jail...

 

there are five simple choices, don't pretend that there are only two when that's simply not the case.

 

Even then..Its not clear wether you actually have to perform B), I have a TV connected to a PC running Windows Media Center and I legally watch catch up TV without a licence, I have never actually attempted to use the tuner in the TV but dont feel the need to 'de-tune' it or whatever else TV Licensing suggests just to 'prove' my innocence.

 

In the age of Live TV over the internet the whole process of 'de-tuning' TV's is irrelevant now anyway, BBC iPlayer has just been updated and now provides easy to use live TV over the 'net.

 

Andy