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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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Nothing to report I'm afraid.. :(

 

No letter from MC in response to mine of last week, and I know they received it last tuesday as I sent it recorded delivery and I have the Sig for receipt..:cool:

 

I know they like to play close to the deadlines and there have been postal strikes but this is too close so I guess I need to prepare for my second set aside..:rolleyes:

 

Perhaps the A team could step in and advise how I go about this..

 

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N244 set a side NoD as you a re prob aware, however in your interests alone have you tried speaking to the Sols before you make this move and and ask what their intentions are to your proposals.One phonecall could make all the difference and save further costs.IMHO

 

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Hi Andy,

 

I did consider emailing them as there's the postal issues, but when I've done that in the past they've never replied.. Also From past experience with phone calls to them , that is like pulling teeth... you just get told to ring back, person you wants not in the office, we'll call you back ,they never did..... You know the scenario :rolleyes:

 

I don't particularly want to drag this out for much longer, but I don't trust them as far as I could throw them... it's a dilemma and I don't want them mucking me about so I run out of time!!

 

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I agree with andy re. an attempt at contact spam if only because of the present postal strike & it may impress on the court your reasonableness etc. when it comes to awarding costs when you win the case.

 

All it takes is an email copying them in your corresp, pointing out they received it on xxx & that to date you haven't received their response so in view of the postal stirke you'd like to invite them to do so by email by 5.00pm on xxx (give them 24 hours). Failure to submit their response by that time will be taken as a refusal of your proposals for settlement & you will pursue a legal course of redress forthwith & without further discussion with them.

 

The set aside application has to be an N244 along the lines of:

 

xxx County Court

Case No: xxxx

Phoenix Rec. etc. v Spamalot

 

 

I, spam, make application to the xxx County Court to set aside the Notice of Discontinuance issued on xxxx by Phoenix Rec. (copy attached)

 

The claimant discontinued this case under CPR 38.2(1) before the defendant had been afforded the opportunity to submit a defence in accordance with the court's directions given on xxxx (copy attached)

 

This application is therefore made in accordance with CPR38.4

 

The applicant believes she has a valid defence to the claim made against her & she wishes to exercise her right to a fair trial in this matter.

 

Don't think you need to add a statement of truth to this one (check with court), just sign & date but you def. have to serve a copy of the application on MC so send Rec. Del.

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Thanks FG, Andy.

 

I will await the post tomorrow, if still nothing I will email as suggested and see what happens..

 

You advice as always is much appreciated. :D

 

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Well,

 

There was nothing in the post from MC yesterday so I emailed as suggested with the above, attached a copy of the letter and gave them 'til 5pm today to respond . Surprise surprise, they did not respond and there was still nothing in the post.

 

Once again my correspondence has been ignored by this shower so it's time to take the gloves off. They didn't even have the common decency to acknowledge the letter or email and say thanks but no thanks..

 

Guess it's time to roll out the n244 .... again:rolleyes:

 

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WOW Spamalot

 

im in awe of your determination, i hope i dont falter when it starts getting tough for me, so i will keep coming back to this thread for encouragment

 

keep on going, and best of luck

 

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I would fully agree now you have given opportunity to the Claimant to respond.Retain proof of your communication Spam.

 

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they re makin spam angry.......and they wont like spam when shes angry...:p

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N244 time then me thinks Spammy:D

 

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Once again my correspondence has been ignored by this shower so it's time to take the gloves off. They didn't even have the common decency to acknowledge the letter or email and say thanks but no thanks..

 

 

Be generous in victory spam - it will make you look wonderful in court & will give them no grounds to contest costs ;)

 

N244 here you go again...:(

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Ok, I'm looking at an n244.... does the set aside of the discontinuance have to to be dealt at or without a hearing?

 

Also, do I have to pay for this application as I've only just recently flung my cheque book back at Lloyds :oops::rolleyes:

 

And... what information will I be relying on in support of my application?

 

Is that the copy of discontinuance and my corres with MC or do I have to state something else there?

 

Thanks again guys... sorry to be a pain. Gonna be a long time before the fat lady sings at this rate.8-)

 

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Hello Guest.. :D

OMG, they're not working this late surely? Do MC pay such small peanuts they have to burn the midnight oil??

 

Ok, I'm looking at an n244.... does the set aside of the discontinuance have to to be dealt at or without a hearing?

 

Don't think you need to apply for a hearing but check with the court. It's your right & you are not putting forward any arguments as you were in the set aside.

Also, do I have to pay for this application as I've only just recently flung my cheque book back at Lloyds :oops::rolleyes:

 

Sorry, think you do :( but you will get the cost back when you win :) Check with the court on the fees. I think it will be £75.00 again so you may have to go to the hole in the wall & pay cash in person at the court unless you have a pal with a cheque handy.

And... what information will I be relying on in support of my application?

 

Is that the copy of discontinuance and my corres with MC or do I have to state something else there?

 

You are applying under CPR 38.4. Other than that just attach copy NoD & the court directions stating that you had until 16? Sept to submit defence & that you were prevented in so doing by the NoD. See my earlier post above.

Thanks again guys... sorry to be a pain. Gonna be a long time before the fat lady sings at this rate.8-)

 

Unfortunately the pain is all yours, spam, at the moment but no gain without pain eh? It would seem from the deafening silence of MC that we are prob. correct in the assumption that they intend to sell this debt on or they would have taken the opportunity to settle. I suspect that they think you will back out of the set aside & they will continue with their devious plans. :mad:

If you swallow the above assumptions, IMO your best bet is to pursue this while the iron is hot or you will get burnt at a later date. So pain in the proverbial but at least you will get it settled this year.

 

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No hearing and the fee is £35.00

 

 

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My newt update...

 

Curiouser and curiouser, defaults by HFC and Marlin on my credit report have been removed....infact the whole 'alleged debt has been removed.. it's just not there anymore...

 

I did write to credit expert a while ago with regards to the 'account' being reported on there twice and they were going to write to HFC and investigate it..:cool:

 

Strange..

 

Anyhoo, shall set about my set aside today and am considering instructing a Barrister just so I can hike up the costs for MC/Marlin/Phoenix...:D

 

Maybe if I hit them where it hurts, they may take more care with how they treat their 'customers' and stop needlessly dragging people through the court system for nothing...I'm not being in the least bit vindictive I'm doing this to help others..:rolleyes::D

 

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Just a quickie if anyone's around..:)

 

Re n244... I have prepared my application and have a copy to send to MC..Q9 says.. 'who should be served with this application'

 

Do I need to put anything in there??

 

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Anyhoo, shall set about my set aside today and am considering instructing a Barrister just so I can hike up the costs for MC/Marlin/Phoenix...:D

 

 

Be aware that if you employ a barrister, the court may not necessarily award the full costs of his fee. Also be sure that whoever you employ is extremely well versed in CCA legislation - there have been reports on this forum where the legal advice obtained may have contributed to the defendant actually losing a valid case. :eek:

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Hi all,

 

Be aware that if you employ a barrister, the court may not necessarily award the full costs of his fee. Also be sure that whoever you employ is extremely well versed in CCA legislation - there have been reports on this forum where the legal advice obtained may have contributed to the defendant actually losing a valid case. :eek:

 

Thanks FG, I'll PM you about that..;-)

 

Well, I've just had the most ridiculous ding dong with my court with regards to setting aside the discontinuance....

 

Spam.. I wish to make an application to set aside the discontinuance of a claim.

 

Court... you can't do that.

 

Spam... Yes I can, it's in CPR 38.4 that I can do that within 28 days of discontinuance.

 

Court.. But the claimant doesn't wish to continue.

 

Spam... I know, but I do. I want to claim my costs and get the agreement judged unenforceable.

 

Court.. You need to make a seperate claim for that..

 

Spam... No, I don't , it is my right to continue with this one..

 

Court officer trots off to see court manager...

 

Court ... The court manager says that the judgement has been set aside and the claimant no longer wishes to claim so you can't set aside the discontinuance..

 

Spam... It is in civil procedure rules 38.4 that states I can if i wish set aside the discontinuation as long as it's done within 28 days... Do you have a copy of CPR? I will show it to you...

 

Court.. No we don't..:rolleyes:

 

Scuttles off back to Court manager.... I'm beginning to doubt myself now..

 

Court... Court manager says we'll accept your application... but it will have to go in front of the judge...

 

Spam... ok thank you here's the £35

 

Court ...£75 It's an application for a set aside and it will have to go for a hearing...because the other side need to be there

 

Spam... Excuse me....I'm not asking for a judgement to be set aside I'm asking for a set aside of a discontinuance and I've asked for without a hearing so why do the other side have to be there... there was no hearing for them to discontinue... this is my response to there discontinuance...

 

Court... Blank stare... I'm not legally trained... it's £75

 

Spam....(hands over £75..:( and copy of application...) do I have to send a copy to MC or will you do it...

 

Court... We'll do it... oh do you have a spare copy then cause otherwise we'll have to copy the application to send to them.

 

Spam...( Puts copy back in envelope and in hanbag) Smiles (thinks... you want £75 and then expect me to provide photocopies!!! :eek:) Thank you for being so helpful...

 

It went on a bit longer than that but I won't bore you... that's the gist..

 

Just Unbelievable....

 

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Hi all,

 

 

 

Thanks FG, I'll PM you about that..;-)

 

Well, I've just had the most ridiculous ding dong with my court with regards to setting aside the discontinuance....

 

Spam.. I wish to make an application to set aside the discontinuance of a claim.

 

Court... you can't do that.

 

Spam... Yes I can, it's in CPR 38.4 that I can do that within 28 days of discontinuance.

 

Court.. But the claimant doesn't wish to continue.

 

Spam... I know, but I do. I want to claim my costs and get the agreement judged unenforceable.

 

Court.. You need to make a seperate claim for that..

 

Spam... No, I don't , it is my right to continue with this one..

 

Court officer trots off to see court manager...

 

Court ... The court manager says that the judgement has been set aside and the claimant no longer wishes to claim so you can't set aside the discontinuance..

 

Spam... It is in civil procedure rules 38.4 that states I can if i wish set aside the discontinuation as long as it's done within 28 days... Do you have a copy of CPR? I will show it to you...

 

Court.. No we don't..:rolleyes:

 

Scuttles off back to Court manager.... I'm beginning to doubt myself now..

 

Court... Court manager says we'll accept your application... but it will have to go in front of the judge...

 

Spam... ok thank you here's the £35

 

Court ...£75 It's an application for a set aside and it will have to go for a hearing...because the other side need to be there

 

Spam... Excuse me....I'm not asking for a judgement to be set aside I'm asking for a set aside of a discontinuance and I've asked for without a hearing so why do the other side have to be there... there was no hearing for them to discontinue... this is my response to there discontinuance...

 

Court... Blank stare... I'm not legally trained... it's £75

 

Spam....(hands over £75..:( and copy of application...) do I have to send a copy to MC or will you do it...

 

Court... We'll do it... oh do you have a spare copy then cause otherwise we'll have to copy the application to send to them.

 

Spam...( Puts copy back in envelope and in hanbag) Smiles (thinks... you want £75 and then expect me to provide photocopies!!! :eek:) Thank you for being so helpful...

 

It went on a bit longer than that but I won't bore you... that's the gist..

 

Just Unbelievable....

 

Spam.:)

 

 

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Best laugh of the day Spam

 

 

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I'm gob smacked spam!

 

I know the court staff are hard pressed, underpaid & harassed but really, is this any excuse for a court manager not to understand the rules?! Let alone not have a copy of the CPR in the office. :eek:

 

Maybe when other defendants catch on to dodgy claimant's intentions as to discontinuing & then selling on the debt to other DCAs & the right to put a stop to it, the courts will catch on to the procedure too. You can only live in hope that the DJ is better educated...

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I'm gob smacked spam!

 

I know the court staff are hard pressed, underpaid & harassed but really, is this any excuse for a court manager not to understand the rules?! Let alone not have a copy of the CPR in the office. :eek: That's what I thought..I saw the computers in the office and I said... just google CPR rules and have a look but she wasn't having any of it.

Maybe when other defendants catch on to dodgy claimant's intentions as to discontinuing & then selling on the debt to other DCAs & the right to put a stop to it, the courts will catch on to the procedure too. You can only live in hope that the DJ is better educated...THAT is what's worrying me.... what if they do sling it out!! How long have I got left to do a wasted costs order????:rolleyes:

 

I know on the outside the whole ludicrous incident is amusing, but it really was like banging my head against a brick wall, the woman behind me in the waiting room kept looking at me in disbelief ... I had to basically INSIST that they accept my application..

 

Sheesh... what a day..

 

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THAT is what's worrying me.... what if they do sling it out!! How long have I got left to do a wasted costs order????

 

They can't sling it out - that would be totally in contravention of CPR & you have actually mentioned the rule in your application. Don't despair just 'cos some court staff don't know the procedures.

 

There is no time limit on wasted costs, it just has to be reasonable.

 

Any knowledge I possess or advice I proffer is based solely on my experiences in the University of Life. Please make your own assessment of legality, risks & costs before taking any action.

 

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