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    • This is the full details, note they have made an error (1) in that paragraph 5 stated 14 days before hearing not 7. Surely a company of their size would proof read and shouldn't make basic errors like that 1) The Claimant respectfully applies for an extension of time to comply with paragraph 5 of the Order of Deputy District Judge XXX dated XX March 2024 i.e. the evidence upon which the parties intend to rely shall be filed and served not later than 7-days before the hearing. 2) The Claimant seeks a short extension of time allow them to further and properly investigate data provided to them by Royal Mail which is of importance to the proceedings and determination of the Claim. 3) The Claimant and Royal Mail have an information sharing agreement. Under the agreement, Royal Mail has provided data to the Claimant in respect of the matters forming the basis of these proceedings. The Claimant requires more time to consider this data and reconcile it against their own records. The Claimant may need to seek clarification and assurances from Royal Mail before they can be confident the data is correct and relevant to the proceedings i.e. available to be submitted as evidence. 4) The Claimant's witness is currently out of the office on annual leave and this was not relayed to DWF Law until after the event which has caused a further unfortunate delay. 5) The Court has directed parties to file and serve any evidence upon which they intend to rely not later than 14- days before the hearing i.e. by 4pm on 6 June 2024. Regrettably, the Claimant will have insufficient time to finalise their witness evidence and supporting exhibits as directed. We therefore respectfully apply to extend the time for filing/serving evidence so that the evidence upon which the parties intend to rely by filed and served not later than 7-days before the hearing i.e. by 4pm on 13 June 2024. 6) This application is a pre-emptive one for an extension of time made prior to the expiry of the deadline. In considering the application, the Court is required to exercise its broad case management powers and consider the overriding objective. 7) In circumstances where applications are made in time, the Court should be reticent to refuse reasonable applications for extensions of time which neither imperil hearing dates nor disrupt proceedings, pursuant to Hallam Estates v Baker [2014] EWCA Civ 661. 😎 It is respectfully submitted that the application is made pursuant to the provisions of CPR 3.1(2)(a) and in accordance with the overriding objective to ensure the parties are on an equal footing when presenting their cases to the Court. The requested extension of time does not put the hearing at risk and granting the Application will not be disruptive to the proceedings.   They have asked for extension Because 2) The Claimant requires additional time to consider and reconcile data received from Royal Mail which is relevant to these proceedings against their own data and records in order to submit detailed evidence in support of this Claim.
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I am still a bit confused with the terminlogy

 

Case Dismissed vs Discontinued vs Won

 

Whats the difference? Can i sue them now? Can they start proceedings again at a later date?

 

It's unlikely they will even attempt to reinstate the claim - they would need the court's permission and new, important and relevant evidence - so in most cases that's as good as a win. Unlikely they will come after you again for ANY of that alleged debt.

 

Sadly, they will still trash your credit file, but that's another issue. Relax and enjoy the moment.

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Hi,

 

You've been pointed to my thread where I am in a major dispute with HFO/Turnbulls...

 

If the claim was dismissed then I imagine you should be able issue a counterclaim for Data Protection issues, Administration of Justice Act 1970 and for your litigant in person costs...

 

You have to hit this company where it hurts I'm afraid to get any satisfaction. If the Notice of Assignment has been found to be dodgy... then you should also report this with the ICO and they "should" order the removal of your data within the HFO systems.

 

Long way to go for me yet but this is the exact route I shall be going down...

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On another point... do you object to sending me a copy of the notice of discontinuance with your personal details blocked out? This could be very useful for a large complaint against HFO/TR that me and DonkeyB will be working on in the future... it might also get TR in trouble as vexatious litigants who bring court claims to the fore even though the legal points are clarified beforehand.

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Havent checked this forum for a while but glad too see that HFO are getting some of their own medicine back! If you still need any info then let me know and I will send you some stuff across.

 

In my case, the stated they had a NoA in the PoC, they refused to supply me with it after numerous SaR, they didnt supply one even after direct instruction of the Court.

 

They filed their defence/witness statements after I had filed mine and even reffered to statements I had made in my defence (after the deadline for documents that were to be relied on in court be sent to me)

 

Is it to late to countersue these chumps now? after reading a few of the threads on HFO I would like to join the fun and get back on their case again.

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I have been doing some research around suing HFO/Turnbull to recover costs just to add to their workload but I am having trouble on the next steps.

 

The Judgement states "this case is dismissed" and earlier in the summary it states that the Claimant be granted permission to amend the claim (change of Name from Capitol to Services)...service to be dispensed with on the basis this is a final hearing.

 

So who do i need to write to you with an outline of my costs? HFO, Turnbull or do I go straight to the Court?

 

Every example I have seen is for when a case has been discontinued (Part 38 - PART 38 - DISCONTINUANCE - Ministry of Justice)

 

Getting myself in a bit of a muddle here with this! Any ideas much appreciated...

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Ok...I will send them both a letter asking for costs as litigant in person - and postage expenses.

 

Do i give them a certain number of days to respond before starting court proceedings? On the PoC would I just state that these are costs arising out of an earlier claim that was dismissed?

 

Thanks....Prynhawn da (The only bit of welsh I remember from Primary School!)

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