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Are you monitoring these forums, BrightHouse?

 

If so... GREAT!

See you bright eyed and bushy-tailed on Monday morning! ;)

 

 

 

 

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Lefty

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I really enjoyed my first day.

Met some very interesting people, and learnt quite a bit.

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Day 2

 

"...You don't need to do the hard sell with the high-end products... These morons will sign anything for the latest stuff..."

 

"...We don't sell many sat-navs... Those who actually have cars only ever need to find their way to the dole office usually..."

 

"...Yeah, we get them to initial several points on their contract - this is supposed to be to say they have read and understood them... I just think it's because it would take forever getting some of the pond-life around here to sign their name more than once..."

 

More sales advice and tips tomorrow! ;)

 

 

 

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Lefty

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wtf?? :S

7 years in retail customer service

 

Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

Please note that any posts made by myself are for information only and should not and must not be taken as correct or factual. If in doubt, consult with a solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

 

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Day 3

 

Been quiet today, but I thought this was good.

 

"...I've heard EVERY excuse in the book concerning late payments. The most common is '(the customer) is in hospital.' Ask them what hospital and what's the ward number, and tell them you'll call and pick the payment up!" You'd be surprised how quickly they cough up after that!..."

 

Have a day off tomorrow, so more nuggets of wisdom on Friday!

 

 

 

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I'm sure all of BH's customers feel safe in the knowledge that if they have a heart attack, are mowed down by a bus, or are diagnosed with terminal cancer that BH will very nicely send some burly lads to visit them, collect their payment and help them avoid late payment charges

All my posts are made without prejudice and may not be reused or reproduced without my express permission (or the permission of the forums owners)!

 

17/10/2006 Recieve claim against me from lloyds TSB for £312.82

18/10/06 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent

03/02/07 Claim allocated to small claims. Hearing set for 15/05/07. Lloyds ordered to file statement setting out how they calculate their charges

15/05/07 Lloyds do not attend. Judgement ordered for £192 approx, £3 travel costs and removal of default notice

29/05/07 4pm Lloyds deadline for payment of CCJ expires. Warrant of execution ready to go

19/06/07 Letter from court stating Lloyds have made a cheque payment to court

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I'm sure all of BH's customers feel safe in the knowledge that if they have a heart attack, are mowed down by a bus, or are diagnosed with terminal cancer that BH will very nicely send some burly lads to visit them, collect their payment and help them avoid late payment charges

 

“…The BrightHouse policies regarding debt collection are fully compliant with the Consumer Credit Act and with the OFT guidelines regarding the collection of debt.” - David Harrwood, Company Secretary - BrightHouse.

 

:-D

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This is better than whistleblower anyway! Just need to take a hidden camera in now and flog the footage to the BBC :D

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17/10/2006 Recieve claim against me from lloyds TSB for £312.82

18/10/06 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent

03/02/07 Claim allocated to small claims. Hearing set for 15/05/07. Lloyds ordered to file statement setting out how they calculate their charges

15/05/07 Lloyds do not attend. Judgement ordered for £192 approx, £3 travel costs and removal of default notice

29/05/07 4pm Lloyds deadline for payment of CCJ expires. Warrant of execution ready to go

19/06/07 Letter from court stating Lloyds have made a cheque payment to court

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I'm guessing that the OP has a new job with a particular company and is posting what they have been taught in 'on the job training'

 

Keep posting it's brilliant

 

Mossy

 

Thank you!

 

...and I think it was you who said...

 

Anything done purely for research is not punishable (apparently)

 

:grin: :D :grin:

 

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Lefty I am loving this thread

 

Keep us posted

 

Mossy

 

PS The ' Anything done purely for research is not punishable (apparently)' is my own personal take and is probably not the legal take :)

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Well done lefty go get them my son

pick payment up from the ward sh@ithouse wont even come to my house lol

might have something to do with 18st front row rugby player waiting to answer the door and chuck them over the gate (ME) so the s@it out and wiped off my account swines

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A customer came in today wanting to reduce their payments, and asked if they could remove Optional Service Cover from their agreements. They were in arrears by two weeks, and were struggling to catch up.

"...You can't cancel your Optional Service Cover when your account is in arrears. You need to bring it fully up to date, and then make payments on time for at least 6 weeks before we can make any adjustments to your agreement..."

It was VERY difficult for me to just stand and witness this, knowing it was a complete and utter lie... Even harder was watching her hand over more than £90 to bring her account up to date. What the poor girl didn't know was that her Optional Service Cover had EXPIRED anyway, and had already, in effect, been cancelled. She actually paid BrightHouse £27.00 in "overdue" Optional Service Cover premiums that SHOULD NOT have been charged to her account.

I questioned this afterwards, and was told:

"...Yeah, technically, she shouldn't have to have paid the overdue OSC, but it's too much hassle adjusting the account. There's no way I was gonna let her get away with cancelling the OSC... Cheeky cow..."

I also noted that her request concerning cancelling the OSC was niether acted upon or recorded anywhere on her account.

Cheers

Lefty

PS - Am expecting a busy and interesting day tomorrow, because Saturday is when the bulk of payments are due.

PPS - This is harder than I thought, and I have to bite my tongue at least ten times a day!

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Another fun packed day then. Perhaps you should have slipped her a copy of your factsheet when they weren't looking :D

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17/10/2006 Recieve claim against me from lloyds TSB for £312.82

18/10/06 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent

03/02/07 Claim allocated to small claims. Hearing set for 15/05/07. Lloyds ordered to file statement setting out how they calculate their charges

15/05/07 Lloyds do not attend. Judgement ordered for £192 approx, £3 travel costs and removal of default notice

29/05/07 4pm Lloyds deadline for payment of CCJ expires. Warrant of execution ready to go

19/06/07 Letter from court stating Lloyds have made a cheque payment to court

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Lefty I despair!!!!

 

Not at you but at what this Company are doing.

 

I am sure I am not alone in wishing you all the very best in your 'mission', having read your last post I can only imagine the conflict you face between seeing this through and stepping in to help the customers.

 

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silly question as i havent read every thread in this section but how long do you pay the service cover for? im a customer and was pretty much told the service cover was a MUST and it runs as long as the payments to complete do is this wrong then?

well done Lefty ur brave

OMG here we go again:eek:

 

RBOS round 2 prem letter sent 23/10/2008 14days and counting:rolleyes: no reply.....

RBOS LBA sent 11/11/2008

court papers finally issued 27th march they have to 27th april

 

Ambrose wilson/reliable collections account in dispute letter sent 22/10/2008 finally replied to letter 1 today but too late:p no news or replies to anythin now:mad:

 

 

Carpark management letter sent 22/10/2008

not heard anything-7th april 2009

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silly question as i havent read every thread in this section but how long do you pay the service cover for? im a customer and was pretty much told the service cover was a MUST and it runs as long as the payments to complete do is this wrong then?

well done Lefty ur brave

 

Hi

It's not a silly question, and I didn't make it clear in my last post.

As the customer was two weeks in arrears, and as per BrightHouse terms and conditions, her OSC policy was no longer in force and had, in effect, been cancelled (expired).

In other words, had she have reported a FAULT with any of her items, BrightHouse would have said she had no service cover because her account(s) was in arrears.

I suggest you find time to read our BrightHouse factsheet HERE

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Lefty

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Hi Lefty, must be difficult to bite your tongue but your turn will come.

 

Yeah, mate! :) Probably sooner than later! :eek:

Cheers

Lefty

PS - I am keeping a very detailed personal diary, which will prove to be very useful in a few weeks time.

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