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HELP Think i am going to have to pay £176 as they have found a original letter i sent to them way back stating that i drove my vehical to the place were i got this ticket at the begining they denied all knowlage of ever recieving this letter but now they have found it and are saying that i have 7 day to pay £176 or court action i have denied i was the driver but in this letter it say I drove the offending vehicle is there anything i can do other than pay

 

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i got a parking ticket from a private parking company back in april i wrote to them explaining what had happened they wrote back saying they had never recieved any appeal i was so angry that i have just ignored there letters in the end i wrote back asking for proof i was the driver they never got back to me then they issued final demands so i wrote again asking for proof i was the driver today i recived a letter with my very first letter attached asking for full payment or court action i know i am screwed just thorght i would ask

 

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please find links to the following a letter i send to them that they said they never recieved and the letter i recived today a picture of the ticket

 

thanks i think that i am going to have to pay Help if you can and thanks again

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This looks like a PPS parking charge (not a PCN like a council would issue). In effect it is just an invoice & unenforceable as issued on private land. They then send you 'debt collection' letters to worry you into paying up (there is NO debt in the first place).

 

Your 'FINAL DEMAND' letter looks like a joke, IT SAYS 'Dear Sir/Madam'..!!!

 

How are they going to take you to court if they don't even know your name????

 

This is a well known parking [problem] originating from private land such as shop car parks and alley ways behind shops/warehouses etc...

 

If you get a letter or ticket that isn't issued by a council (PCN) or police/traffic warden (PCN or FPN) then it is most likely a PPS 'invoice'. The best you can do is ignore all letters and DO NOT WRITE TO THEM. You could write and complain to the land owner.

 

If you get clamped or towed by a PPS then you should pay by credit card under protest, to get your car released and then you can put a claim in with your credit card company or if you paid by cash you need to go to small claims court and issue proceedings against the PPS and land owner.

 

There are parking help forums if you search for them on google.

 

Good Luck.

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You're not screwed at all.

 

Even though CPS claim that you've admitted being the driver, the sign itself contains a bunch of problems.

 

I can't see anywhere in your letter that you admitted to seeing the signs so they cannot say that you agreed to any contract anyway.

 

Have a look through the Private Parking Charges guide in the stickies section and apply it to the sign.

 

IMV the terms on the sign fail under the on the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts. If they do take you to court this would be one part of your defense.

 

You could also argue the amount concerned is a penalty charge.

 

I still think that this is yet another threat and they'll eventually give up. It's up to you whether you continue to ignore or write a letter.

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I don't see any point in any more writing. The CPS final demand is far more than anything they could hope to get as a court award anyway, so there is simply no scope to settle, even if the OP so wished. Either CPS will take the OP to court or they won't. As Lammma has said, there is no point in laying out the defence until CPS put forward their "claim"

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Should the claimant wish to print out this internet thread and submit it to the court as evidence, please note that he is contractually agreeing to the conditions below. Should the claimant's alleged contract be upheld, equally this one is just as valid:

 

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... they cannot prove you was the driver. Please see ... that you was in fact the driver.
Innit.

 

Priceless.

 

If you were the driver, then I'm sure that you would not try and pretend otherwise. It would seem that Perky's previous claims have been successful on the basis that the defendant was claiming not to be the driver, when the opposite was true, and the judge in each case apparently jumped on this.

 

Stick with the principles laid down in Dunlop, with regards penalties under contract, and attack the lawfulness of private companies imposing fines.

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  • 7 months later...

COURT RESULT:

 

THIS CASE WAS TODAY HEARD IN CHESTER COUNTY COURT AND AWARDED TO THE CLAIMANT.

 

JUDGE HARRISON AWARDED TOTAL COSTS OF APPROX £245 TO THE CLAIMANT.

 

YET ANOTHER CASE ASSISTED BY 'EAGLES' ON HERE LOST !!!

 

THE FORCES ARE ALIGNED, MORE DEFEATS COMING FROM A NUMBER OF PPCs SOON IN RELATION TO CASES ASSISTED BY THESE FORUMS.

 

THE DEFENDANT CONFIRMED HE HAD ASISSTANCE FROM MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM AND PEIPOO WITH HIS DEFENCE (AS BELOW) ...

 

(EDIT:- PERSONAL INFO STILL SHOWING)

 

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(previous images deleted as contained personal info .. only public available information is now on here)

 

THE JUDGE STATED IT WAS NOT A PENALTY DESPITE BEING POINTED TOWARDS THE AUTHORITIES, THE SIGNAGE WAS CLEAR AND DESPITE NOT BEING SEEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

 

PEPIPOO ALSO HAD A HAND IN THIS:

 

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=32190&pid=312548&mode=threaded&start=&do=findComment&comment=312548

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Innit.

 

Priceless.

 

If you were the driver, then I'm sure that you would not try and pretend otherwise. It would seem that Perky's previous claims have been successful on the basis that the defendant was claiming not to be the driver, when the opposite was true, and the judge in each case apparently jumped on this.

 

Stick with the principles laid down in Dunlop, with regards penalties under contract, and attack the lawfulness of private companies imposing fines.

 

Nope, Mr Waring was honest and said he was the driver.

 

The principles laid in Dunlop and others ... the judge when he saw the case we put forward had no hesitation in stating it was not a penalty but an agreed charge !

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You're not screwed at all.

 

Even though CPS claim that you've admitted being the driver, the sign itself contains a bunch of problems.

 

I can't see anywhere in your letter that you admitted to seeing the signs so they cannot say that you agreed to any contract anyway.

 

Have a look through the Private Parking Charges guide in the stickies section and apply it to the sign.

 

IMV the terms on the sign fail under the on the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts. If they do take you to court this would be one part of your defense.

 

You could also argue the amount concerned is a penalty charge.

 

I still think that this is yet another threat and they'll eventually give up. It's up to you whether you continue to ignore or write a letter.

 

I agree with all that (and more besides). but lets us not lay out parts of the defense here. it may get a chance to be used in court... and to claim expenses upon victory..

 

Hey Lamma, you were involved in this one .. I recall you mentioning a few months ago "the last case CPS were involved in bit the buffers at mediation .. as you know we rejected mediation and went straight to the hearing".

 

As for pin1onu .. You have it all wrong again, those arguments were made/presented and still the PPC won.

 

I think Eddie069uk will be on later as when he left the building he mentioned putting the case on CAG, he was very bitter - Maybe he beleived that 'a good defence will always see of the PCC, as has been mentioned before on these forums".

 

As for Trapping, hardly lamma .. so he admitted to being the driver (as with others) .. but as you say this is really immaterial as they have lots of other hurdles they have to climb ... strange that the PPC always seems to win !! (Ok, The idiots at Excel and UKCPS aside - Which for the record apart from being a PPC, CPS (Perky company) has NO LINKS WITH AT ALL ;)).

 

I think a good result yet again - We would post on PePiPoo but they are too overly censored, anything that may interfere with their business model they quickly delete - I mean their 'eagles' constantly losing against 1 PPC :lol: - PRICELESS !!!

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